I've been trying to do the female friend thing once I got to college and I've had no success with it! When I try to be nice to girls (that i'm not attracted to) in a friend kind of way, they later don't talk to me anymore despite the fact that I haven't done anything mean to them. I was wondering if you really ever have "female friends" or do they just come from the girl putting you in the friend zone?
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ya thats funny- it happens to me to- I try to put a girl in the friend zone and she assumes I like her.......... the friends I have that are girls right now also double as FB's once in a while.. any female friend I used to have though back in the AFC days put me in the friend zone.
Nightspark
Senior Don Juan
ironic isnt it!?
well the female friend thing is tricky subject really... u act AFC to them and they'll put u in the friends zone... yeah right the AFC FRIEND ZONE is like a do not touch or talk to basket and you're only there for support aka emotional tampon thingy....
now um having chicks as normal friends is a different story ... they're kind of like ppl u were interested in dating but u got sidetracked somewhere and lost IL on them...
tobby i suggest u just act the way u normally act when urr interested in going with that chick.... just minus the intimacy/affection stuff... i
well the female friend thing is tricky subject really... u act AFC to them and they'll put u in the friends zone... yeah right the AFC FRIEND ZONE is like a do not touch or talk to basket and you're only there for support aka emotional tampon thingy....
now um having chicks as normal friends is a different story ... they're kind of like ppl u were interested in dating but u got sidetracked somewhere and lost IL on them...
tobby i suggest u just act the way u normally act when urr interested in going with that chick.... just minus the intimacy/affection stuff... i
Personally, I don't have the need to have girls as "friends." I do have female friends in college that I've met because of group projects and/or clubs, and they serve as good social proof too by the way. Some of the unattractive ones are also genuinely good people that are good to have around. Although some girls will give a "friend" a chance to move up to the next level after a while, it barely happens. I like having a few girls as friends for social proof, but aside from that, I don't and will never need female friends.
Do this....
tell them that you are gay
GARANTEED SUCCESS!
ok.. seriously now...
1) act as if they are lucky to be your friends, not the other way around!
2) talk to them about OTHER girls that u might be interested in, so that makes it clear to them that you see them as ONLY friends and are interested in OTHER GIRLS!
3) Make arrangements with them after school/college etc
4) make them laugh/enjoy your company
5) hang out with them at breaks etc
6) Be alpha when u are around them, take part in the conversations etc.
7) girls seem to be really amotional, and tend to feel DOWN often, when they ARE, BE THERE FOR THEM, give them advice, comfort them etc. A girl will appreciate this greatly, and never forget that "you were there for them when they needed a friend" etc. <--- this one works like a charm
ok well i'm on my way out now.. but i hope that i helped...
Laterz...
tell them that you are gay
GARANTEED SUCCESS! ok.. seriously now...
1) act as if they are lucky to be your friends, not the other way around!
2) talk to them about OTHER girls that u might be interested in, so that makes it clear to them that you see them as ONLY friends and are interested in OTHER GIRLS!
3) Make arrangements with them after school/college etc
4) make them laugh/enjoy your company
5) hang out with them at breaks etc
6) Be alpha when u are around them, take part in the conversations etc.
7) girls seem to be really amotional, and tend to feel DOWN often, when they ARE, BE THERE FOR THEM, give them advice, comfort them etc. A girl will appreciate this greatly, and never forget that "you were there for them when they needed a friend" etc. <--- this one works like a charm
ok well i'm on my way out now.. but i hope that i helped...
Laterz...
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
There was a post in the past that dealt with making a girl "friend" fall for you by establishing the friendship, but then acting as though it is more than that. I think this may work with a girl with whom you had sexual relations with before rather than one that you didn't. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Is it even possible to have had sex with a girl then get LJBF'd? I don't think it works that way?
Is it even possible to have had sex with a girl then get LJBF'd? I don't think it works that way?
Sorry about the taking a long time for a response, but that's what I want social proof!! I have a whole bunch of guy friends and we always chill and stuff so i don't really need any female friends in that respect, but I've always wanted to have friends from both sides of the spectrum.
~ªêQµïTª$~: I've tried a little of that, but in the end they don't want to talk to me anymore or they start ignoring me. I guess it's because they assummed that I liked them or something.
Nevertheless, if it doesn't work out I'll just chill with my boys.
I have a whole bunch of guy friends and we always chill and stuff so i don't really need any female friends in that respect, but I've always wanted to have friends from both sides of the spectrum. ~ªêQµïTª$~: I've tried a little of that, but in the end they don't want to talk to me anymore or they start ignoring me. I guess it's because they assummed that I liked them or something.
Nevertheless, if it doesn't work out I'll just chill with my boys.
Delta
Master Don Juan
errr....
begs the question: WHY DO YOU WANT FEMALE FRIENDS?
i have a few female friends, some i'd like to fvck their brains out and others not... but i acquired NONE OF THEM BY CHOICE.
all of them have developed into pretty good friendships because they are not AWs (damaged and vulnerable and imperfect sure but not AWs) and they genuinely need a friend in the world - but with the attractive girls, seriously i feel like motherfing spider-man sometimes trying to hang in their and be an ALTRUISTIC friend, be there for them and DO THE RIGHT FING THING.
why are you TRYING to step in front of a speeding bullet?
cuz most likely you'll get hurt, hurt them or everybody just ends up *****ing and bitter... or all of the above.
social proof my fing a$$.... the trouble of female friends TRUMPS social proof.
you DON'T NEED IT.
if your game is strong enough, you can do without. easier to work on the other stuff.
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also, be honest, are you REALLY not attracted to them or is that a paper thin veneer that you put up for yourself even before others?
seriously, friendship is not a backdoor to romantic relationships so if that's your angle, lose it.
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and it JUST MAY BE that these girls are the ANSWER to ATTENTION *****S... they are educated enough to know their own strength and if they sense that someone they're not interested in just may be sidling up on them, instead of stringing them along and BLEEDING THEM DRY, they just shut them down at the outset.
THAT would be refreshing and responsible of them and save quite a few afcs from wasted time, effort and pain.
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DO NOT PURSUE FEMALE FRIENDS!
if one happens along and you still stubbornly insist on having one, then go ahead and sign your own death warrant.
until then, at least do yourself the favor of not expending energy and thought in pursuing the suicidal endeavor.
delta
begs the question: WHY DO YOU WANT FEMALE FRIENDS?
i have a few female friends, some i'd like to fvck their brains out and others not... but i acquired NONE OF THEM BY CHOICE.
all of them have developed into pretty good friendships because they are not AWs (damaged and vulnerable and imperfect sure but not AWs) and they genuinely need a friend in the world - but with the attractive girls, seriously i feel like motherfing spider-man sometimes trying to hang in their and be an ALTRUISTIC friend, be there for them and DO THE RIGHT FING THING.
why are you TRYING to step in front of a speeding bullet?
cuz most likely you'll get hurt, hurt them or everybody just ends up *****ing and bitter... or all of the above.
social proof my fing a$$.... the trouble of female friends TRUMPS social proof.
you DON'T NEED IT.
if your game is strong enough, you can do without. easier to work on the other stuff.
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also, be honest, are you REALLY not attracted to them or is that a paper thin veneer that you put up for yourself even before others?
seriously, friendship is not a backdoor to romantic relationships so if that's your angle, lose it.
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and it JUST MAY BE that these girls are the ANSWER to ATTENTION *****S... they are educated enough to know their own strength and if they sense that someone they're not interested in just may be sidling up on them, instead of stringing them along and BLEEDING THEM DRY, they just shut them down at the outset.
THAT would be refreshing and responsible of them and save quite a few afcs from wasted time, effort and pain.
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DO NOT PURSUE FEMALE FRIENDS!
if one happens along and you still stubbornly insist on having one, then go ahead and sign your own death warrant.
until then, at least do yourself the favor of not expending energy and thought in pursuing the suicidal endeavor.
delta
My female friends are girls I'm not attracted to. I make sure of that because I really don't want to be anyone's emotional tampon. (I think that comes from seeing my sisters use guys that way.) I really do want social proof though because I'm pretty good at having guy friends but I wanted to see if I can have the same success with girls.
I really do want social proof though because I'm pretty good at having guy friends but I wanted to see if I can have the same success with girls.The key is that if you're going to have female friends, make sure you're not attracted to them. That's the basic premise, and if you follow that, you'll be fine.
At the same time, who wants to spend all this time around girls that you aren't attracted to? That's a waste of time to me. It's a double-edged sword. The unattractive women are those that you may end up getting into a long-term serious thing with because you'll find that they are the dependable ones. The better looking women always screw you over unless you're just playing them, which is just a pain in the a$$.
At the same time, who wants to spend all this time around girls that you aren't attracted to? That's a waste of time to me. It's a double-edged sword. The unattractive women are those that you may end up getting into a long-term serious thing with because you'll find that they are the dependable ones. The better looking women always screw you over unless you're just playing them, which is just a pain in the a$$.
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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
seabreeze
Master Don Juan
Okay, i have a question guys. Can a guy truly see a female as a platonic friend if he admits to being sexually attracted to her and they've already had sex? That's one question.
Two, I have a lot of male friends that I have never had sex with, but they all have expressed a desire to have sex with me. Does that mean that that getting with me is their primary motivation? I hope not because they are really great friends.
SB
Two, I have a lot of male friends that I have never had sex with, but they all have expressed a desire to have sex with me. Does that mean that that getting with me is their primary motivation? I hope not because they are really great friends.
SB
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girls will not tell you this. in there 20s-30s-and maybe 40s. girls need guys more than the other way around. only until they're 50s they become almost undesirable for anyone do they no longer need us.
they need guys to supplement their attention. they need guys to bash around for those they hate. they need guys company to make them worthy of living.
guys?
need none of that. we live on aggression and dominance. dominance in education, work, church, war, etc. we are the ones to push to the moon and create awesome weapons of mass destruction. NOT WOMEN.
they need guys to supplement their attention. they need guys to bash around for those they hate. they need guys company to make them worthy of living.
guys?
need none of that. we live on aggression and dominance. dominance in education, work, church, war, etc. we are the ones to push to the moon and create awesome weapons of mass destruction. NOT WOMEN.
yo believe it or not but i havent had a girl as a friend since highschool.
I dont need em we simply dont have sh1t in common. Lets bang lets hang lets shop lets go to subway i dont give a damn but when it comes to being good friends thats why i got my bros.
I dont need em we simply dont have sh1t in common. Lets bang lets hang lets shop lets go to subway i dont give a damn but when it comes to being good friends thats why i got my bros.
Delta
Master Don Juan
sb,
if he wants you, then the PLATONIC part is ALREADY SHOT TO HELL....
if you're fvckable, he isn't going to NOT want to fvck you all of a sudden.
if you've already had sex with him, congrats for amping up the difficulty level to 'ultra torture' for him. you've given him a taste for meat, he wants you, but you're not having sex anymore....
and you gotta ASK? seriously?
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question 2:
YES. think about it for fvck's sake... they've SAID they want to fvck you. they want to bend you over a rail and just go to town on you till one or the both of you cry uncle.
everything they do and say is basically some kinda machination to go spelunker on you.
EVERYTHING.
WHY or WHY oh WHY do you think they are such 'great friends'?
why would you WANT that as a 'friend'? there is no true transparency, there is no real honesty... there's just a lot of veiled motivations.
that's not fair to you.
and you're not fair to them. they don't really want or need your FRIENDSHIP.... but evidently, you want theirs.... you get what you want but they don't get what they really want.
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not everybody believes this but men and women really can't be friends in the truest sense.
either one party gets used or somebody gets hurt.
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personally, i think the problem can be solved if every friendship with a girl is by definition a friendship with benefits.
only then is the relationship really equitable.
and would it really be so bad? come on, we listen to you guys go on and on blah blah blah and put up with it with pretty good humor.
imo, girls' desire to be 'friends' with all these 'great guys' who are just 'easier to get along with than women' is a naive fantasy on par with my feeling that girl 'friends' should be on fvcking terms with all their compadres.
delta
if he wants you, then the PLATONIC part is ALREADY SHOT TO HELL....
if you're fvckable, he isn't going to NOT want to fvck you all of a sudden.
if you've already had sex with him, congrats for amping up the difficulty level to 'ultra torture' for him. you've given him a taste for meat, he wants you, but you're not having sex anymore....
and you gotta ASK? seriously?
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question 2:
YES. think about it for fvck's sake... they've SAID they want to fvck you. they want to bend you over a rail and just go to town on you till one or the both of you cry uncle.
everything they do and say is basically some kinda machination to go spelunker on you.
EVERYTHING.
WHY or WHY oh WHY do you think they are such 'great friends'?
why would you WANT that as a 'friend'? there is no true transparency, there is no real honesty... there's just a lot of veiled motivations.
that's not fair to you.
and you're not fair to them. they don't really want or need your FRIENDSHIP.... but evidently, you want theirs.... you get what you want but they don't get what they really want.
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not everybody believes this but men and women really can't be friends in the truest sense.
either one party gets used or somebody gets hurt.
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personally, i think the problem can be solved if every friendship with a girl is by definition a friendship with benefits.
only then is the relationship really equitable.
and would it really be so bad? come on, we listen to you guys go on and on blah blah blah and put up with it with pretty good humor.
imo, girls' desire to be 'friends' with all these 'great guys' who are just 'easier to get along with than women' is a naive fantasy on par with my feeling that girl 'friends' should be on fvcking terms with all their compadres.
delta