"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Falling Mad Hard for this Girl. Need Some Guidence

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So, I've met my first 10/10 on my scale (This is extremely rare for me, the next top is like a 8.5... My standards are ridiculous). She's probably a good 7 on a look scale, but her personality is just flawless. She's athletic and intelligent.. just wow; she's amazing. I currently get that "Best feeling ever" when I see she texts me.

Now, the bad part. I'm a sophomore (17 years old) and she's a senior (18). She goes to a different school nearby and currently has a boyfriend. So this is going to be a challenge for me. I've already been told by her friend that I'm a lot cuter than he is so I guess I may have a good chance. I currently work with her (This is how I met her) at a restaurant where we have plenty of time to chat. I've definitely have displayed value to her. (Sports, I've told her how I dropped really pretty girls for being over the top slutty, and she caught me walking with a pretty decent girl). She has not mentioned anything about her boyfriend yet, or any relation to any guy whatsoever. We've had discussions about it but she hasn't mentioned anything.

I've been pretty enthusiastic in my texts, same for her. I've made her laugh a lot but I've never escalated to any hit on or flirts. I don't want to risk a loss. What should I do? What are some funny things I can say to her like some negs or jokes?

And most importantly: How can I destroy her boyfriend out of the picture?

Need some serious help here bros! This is the real deal; my God given chance.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Thread was double posted somehow. Please respond to the other one and have the admins delete this one. Thanks.
 
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Landon7 said:
How can I destroy her boyfriend out of the picture?
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Personally, I'd advise against any course of action that revolves around kicking her boyfriend out the door as that can have serious consequences for you. If this girl wants to be with you, she has to voluntarily leave her boyfriend. Otherwise you might get a butt-kicking from her boyfriend....not worth fighting some guy just for a girl.

Which brings me to my other, I'm noticing from your post that you've placed this girl on an extremely high pedestal. A girl can tell when you are making her feel really special and that can in most cases be a major turn off. Treat her as you would treat any other girl. Be yourself.
 
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Blistex said:
Personally, I'd advise against any course of action that revolves around kicking her boyfriend out the door as that can have serious consequences for you. If this girl wants to be with you, she has to voluntarily leave her boyfriend. Otherwise you might get a butt-kicking from her boyfriend....not worth fighting some guy just for a girl.

Which brings me to my other, I'm noticing from your post that you've placed this girl on an extremely high pedestal. A girl can tell when you are making her feel really special and that can in most cases be a major turn off. Treat her as you would treat any other girl. Be yourself.
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No worries there mate. I don't treat her any different than any other girl. Just in my mind I'm thinking see's the one.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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**** man if i had the magic advice that would land this girl in your lap would give it to you.

**** that piece of **** boyfriend this is about you getting your 10/10. You're already talking to her so thats a good thing, i hope that she is not your first, you are relaxed around her and you've been physical. You don't need to worry about her mentioning her boyfriend too much, when she does its a good sign that she sees you as a sexual threath. In this case thats a good thing.

Most will come in and talk about morals or that you can't land your personal 10/10 but those are faggots because you are 17 Y/O. **** those rules. Its time for you to learn and the best way to learn is for you to go at it!

Keep us up to date, i hope you put your **** in. Or maybe double team her with her current BF. Just don't cross swords because thats gay :/
 
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You can go for her, but keep in mind that any girl who is likely to leave her beau for you will be likely to leave you when the next guy comes along.

Better course: put her way on the backburner and date some other chicks.
 
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You need to touch her, and sooner or later invite her out one on one, and then kiss her during that date. At any stage of this she may mention she has a boyfriend. This means she's uncomfortable. Handle that and proceed confidently. You WILL have to ask her out eventually, don't take too long to do it.
 
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