"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Fail rep..ehm field report

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Since Im not one of the guru on the board, I'll be doing my part with frequent field reports where my ass and my ego are on the line.

Ok first of all I decided to went to the club despite all my friends unavailable, thats not actually something I love althought it worked in past, in fact I think that having a drink with your friend while chilling in the place will help you to give the right vibe and avoid looking like the "particular" guy whos by himself.

Anyway as my name says here I strongly believe that victory belongs to those who dare and you'll see what I mean here.

Ok first of all I slowly moved from the entrance to the toilet in order to see which girls where out of the dance floor and available to be approached, right after while taking care of my hair I decided how to approach and in which order, I think improvisation is great but yet still requires a little bit of planning.

Anyway right after I moved the to bar where I approached two girls dancing in front of the seats, asked some random stuff not relevant since attraction happens in few seconds from the meeting and you can tell in really few seconds if she likes you or not, undependant from what you actually say.

One of them was neutral, not happy nor bothered while the other was was slightly condescend so I kep the interaction short and closed it with a "see you later girls".

After wasting some time one of my friends decided to come, thing which I appreciated much mostly because of the company.
We started approaching girls, mostly me but he sided with no fear.

Again we approached two other girls sitting close to the bar, they were cold at the beginning but got a little bit later, we talked from about 10 minute, light talk nothing serious then I invited them to sit but they said they had to go to the toilet...I got the hint and told them the usual "see you later".

Moved to the bar where I approaced again two girls, a good looking one and an ugly one, talked with the goodlooking one and right after with the other just to decrease the chances of a c0ckblock...anyway c0ckblock was the last problem since their attitute was the "ewww why they dont leave me alone" so cutted it short and left.

At that point I was kinda tired and the guy-girl ratio was getting bad so decided to leave.

It was a really crappy night, I doesnt go great usually but I had good result that lead me even to one night stands or dates in past however I have no choice but to acknowledge that the club is like a b1tch sometimes it gives you everything others nothing.

Any comment welcome, and I'll be coming with a field report next weekend, this time Im sure it will be better than today especially if I manage to bring some girl I already know.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Who Dares Win said:
Since Im not one of the guru on the board, I'll be doing my part with frequent field reports where my ass and my ego are on the line.

I respect anyone who posts a field report, ESPECIALLY if they didn't have a good night.

Ok first of all I decided to went to the club despite all my friends unavailable, thats not actually something I love althought it worked in past, in fact I think that having a drink with your friend while chilling in the place will help you to give the right vibe and avoid looking like the "particular" guy whos by himself.

I agree that going out alone is NOT ideal, but it's something I do often because I don't have a wingman.

Anyway as my name says here I strongly believe that victory belongs to those who dare and you'll see what I mean here.

I like that name. I think it's a great idea to apply that (SAS) wisdom here.

Ok first of all I slowly moved from the entrance to the toilet in order to see which girls where out of the dance floor and available to be approached, right after while taking care of my hair I decided how to approach and in which order, I think improvisation is great but yet still requires a little bit of planning.

That is ok. It's good to quickly scan room while you get a drink or go to the toilet, as long as you start approaching soon after.

While there is some value in approaching as soon as you walk in the door, it's risky because you don't have a sense of who is with whom. Plus, it usually requires that you are already "warmed up" maybe from another venue.


Anyway right after I moved the to bar where I approached two girls dancing in front of the seats, asked some random stuff not relevant since attraction happens in few seconds from the meeting and you can tell in really few seconds if she likes you or not, undependant from what you actually say.

Finally, somebody gets it. The PUA guys got guys obsessed with openers and routines. What you say doesn't matter. You are just testing the waters to see if she's interested. If she is interested, she's likely open to talk about almost anything and will HELP you with the conversation. If she's not interested, there's nothing you can do but move on.

The only reason I'm ok with having a simple opener or two memorized is that it removes the "What do I say?" excuse and can prevent procrastination. (But it's just a tool and is not necessary.) But after that, just talk naturally.


One of them was neutral, not happy nor bothered while the other was was slightly condescend so I kep the interaction short and closed it with a "see you later girls".

Yes, it's common to get different reactions from a pair of girls in the same group. Girl #1 being neutral and girl #2 being condescending is a good reason to eject.

My problem is what to do when one girl is friendly/receptive and her friend is condescending. I mean I might really like Girl #1, but not want to put up with her friend Girl #2 mistreating me.


After wasting some time one of my friends decided to come, thing which I appreciated much mostly because of the company.
We started approaching girls, mostly me but he sided with no fear.

Often, when you "wing" with a guy, one guy is much better at opening, and the other guy is fine with just talking. You're the better the "opener" so you have the right idea.

Again we approached two other girls sitting close to the bar, they were cold at the beginning but got a little bit later, we talked from about 10 minute, light talk nothing serious then I invited them to sit but they said they had to go to the toilet...I got the hint and told them the usual "see you later".

Good. You read their hints properly.

Moved to the bar where I approaced again two girls, a good looking one and an ugly one, talked with the goodlooking one and right after with the other just to decrease the chances of a c0ckblock...anyway c0ckblock was the last problem since their attitute was the "ewww why they dont leave me alone" so cutted it short and left.

Yeah, nothing you could do but eject.

At that point I was kinda tired and the guy-girl ratio was getting bad so decided to leave.

Good call. A higher sausage to gina ratio will only make b*tch shields WORSE, not better.

It was a really crappy night, I doesnt go great usually but I had good result that lead me even to one night stands or dates in past however I have no choice but to acknowledge that the club is like a b1tch sometimes it gives you everything others nothing.

There are so many factors in this game that are not within our control. We can't control how many women will be at the club or if they will be ones that we will "click" with.

You can go to the SAME club, dress the same, and do everything the same, and score one week and get completely rejected the next week.

Ultimately, it's about being in the right place at the right time.



Any comment welcome, and I'll be coming with a field report next weekend, this time Im sure it will be better than today especially if I manage to bring some girl I already know.
Good report. You did the best you could with what was there.

I should have one of my own coming up within a week.
 

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Thanks Mike, your feedbacks are always useful and please do a field report yourself especially after many of the guys here dont bother anymore to do theirs.
 
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