foreverAFC
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did she tell you that?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
xstang77
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Does this chick seem cool in the head otherwise from your limited interaction? I'm With everyone about talking to her and perusing it but the constant staring Is creepy and would make me uncomfortable..sounds wierd.
foreverAFC
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the staring is normal, a lot of women will do it, but like i said in my experience they are usually fishing hard for attention and taken already
xstang77
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I agree but the amount of long akward staring every time he goes there is just wierd imo, even taken girls in my experience do the usual stare then look
Away for a little and repeat not the straight burning non stop stare down lol.
foreverAFC
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yeah its not as common but ive still had it happen to me more than a few times at work, a lot of times they are staring at you that long because they are waiting for you to smile back while you are confused as to why she is staring so hard
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
WanderingMan
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This kind of sounds familiar.
I went out with a chick from my gym a while back. How I figured out she was into me was by the way she would not look at me. Sounds strange but she'd go out of her way to not look in my direction but to look the other way even when it was perfectly natural to be looking my way - I'd be walking by her and she'd turn her head and look down a hallway with nothing there. Girls that are indifferent wouldn't care either way, might even just give you a friendly hello, but this chick was playing coy, until one day I saw an in and started a conversation with her, BOOM, and that was all she wrote....until I screwed it up later by striking while the Iron was hot (but that's another story).
Your chick obviously has some kind of interest in you, but whatever it is, her approach is somewhat strange.
She has trouble opening up with basic questions, which most would consider normal. I am very confident in her interest in me, but I need to increase her comfort level first.
She seems to be shy and inexperienced with guys( possibly). I see her around. We first would talk a lot, but now that the interest factor is known about each other. She has pulled back a bit, we still talk a lot and very friendly with each other. its not toast but she seems to have cold feet.
What the best way to make her more comfortable and try to being everything together? We both know there is mutual interest ( as this was discussed and y this kind of body language) but she's shy and moving slower than I thought. Whats the best way to open her up more to be more comfortable? I run into her a few times a week
She seems to be shy and inexperienced with guys( possibly). I see her around. We first would talk a lot, but now that the interest factor is known about each other. She has pulled back a bit, we still talk a lot and very friendly with each other. its not toast but she seems to have cold feet.
What the best way to make her more comfortable and try to being everything together? We both know there is mutual interest ( as this was discussed and y this kind of body language) but she's shy and moving slower than I thought. Whats the best way to open her up more to be more comfortable? I run into her a few times a week
She came up to me, the other day and told me when she gets off work and what her schedule right. She said she wanted to talk and catch up. She asked me when I was free. She said she was free at 7pm. she has appts until then. I told her I might be around. I ended up leaving. I'll see her again. But was this a good sign? I mean she wanted to make time for me after her work. I didn't expect this at all. I try to see her next week
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
backseatjuan
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Pst! Now that I read the rest of this. You gotta play it down, go half way, meet up with her.
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She went cold for a couple weeks. No idea why so I left it be went NC and all of a sudden she comes up and asks. I was thinking she might have been still cold. but I was surprised.