Experts admit swine flu jab 'may cause' deadly nerve disease

[Rogue]

fear, lies and control.

Do you even know what you sound like.
'Get a jab or you will kill someone'.


Anyway, one only as to follow the money trail and it all becomes clear.
Swine flu was an over-hyped money spinner, people where not dropping down dead in mall's

The science is rock solid. May I reiterate the natural immunity route results in actively shedding the virus for a number of days and having the potential to spreading to people in high risk groups such as the elderly, immunocomprised, and very young children, who may die as an indirect result of someone's infection. Vaccinations do not result in active shedding, for the obvious reason the samples are either dead or genetically inactivated. May I reiterate that people have the choice whether to be vaccinated, but at least understand the intellectual academic grounds for a decision.

The 2009 H1N1 virus, which has mutated into three strains, and has a higher mortality rate for children than the seasonal flu, appears to be dwindling worldwide, but whenever a virus becomes a pandemic there is always the concern it may mutate into a highly lethal strain, as did the 1918 flu. It's called preventative medicine for a reason. If a pandemic flu strain were ever to mutate into a highly lethal strain, just how many preventable deaths need to occur until people began getting vaccinated?

Vaccinations are not very profitable, comprising two percent of revenue. Generally speaking, the only people who choose to be vaccinated for the flu are people in high-risk groups, such as the elderly and the parents of very young children, which are comparatively small demographics of the population.

Penn & Teller did an episode of their show Bullsh*t! on vaccinations. Granted, the episode largely pertained to investigating the claim childhood vaccinations cause autism, but they do address and dismantle the arguments concerning vaccine ingredients and 'follow the money.' Follow the money? How about the alternative medicine industry which is trying to compete with mainstream medicine with unproven remedies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aky-sRri-NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnxci5tezZY

 

[bigjohnson]

Yes I maybe going a little far here ....

Yeah I think that pretty much sums your entire post up nicely.

Blind faith has no place in science, which is the discipline that gave us things like the Internet, computers and vaccines. Anti-vaccination scare mongering on the other hand has more in common with a religious movement. Charismatic figureheads and all.

 

[horaholic]

I haven't heard a DAMN thing about swine flu since we were all having this SAME discussion over a year ago. Nothing about people dying, no 'mandatory' vaccinations, no epidemics, no martial law due to public panic, no stories of peple dying from vaccinations; NOTHING. Like I thought from the beginning, it is a WAY overhyped strain of flu that isnt a whole lot worse than regular flu, that the media shoved down our throats to get their ratings up.

 

[Rogue]

horaholic:
Like I thought from the beginning, it is a WAY overhyped strain of flu that isnt a whole lot worse than regular flu, that the media shoved down our throats to get their ratings up.

Cynicism doesn't equate with insight.

The flu of 1918 began with humble beginnings. There was nothing especially out of the ordinary until the second flu season in which it mutated into a highly lethal strain which disproportionately killed otherwise previously healthy young adults, which is a considerably abnormal pattern for the flu. The estimates of the 1918 death toll range between 20-100 million. The Mexican outbreak of the novel 2009 H1N1 flu, which began in late 2008, was alarming because it was a novel strain which was conforming to the abnormal pattern of the 1918 flu by disproportionately killing non-elderly adults. According to the US Centers for Disease Control,

Of the 5,337 laboratory-confirmed cases of novel influenza A (H1N1) virus infection, 41.9% of patients were aged <15 years, 32.3% were aged 15--29 years, 23.7% were aged 30--59 years, and 2.1% were aged ≥60 years. Among patients with novel influenza A (H1N1) virus infection, 55.7% of deaths occurred among those aged 30--59 years (source).

The strain went pandemic, a measure of spread not intensity, but for whatever reason the lethality of the strain was unique to the areas surrounding Mexico City. Health officials walk a difficult tightrope between under-awareness with under-preparedness and over-awareness with over-preparedness, the tightrope between getting caught with their pants down and crying wolf. Health officials overreacted to the 1976 swine flu because an outbreak turned out to be limited only to Fort Dix, but whereas by the same token if the 2009 swine flu had kept its lethality in its pandemic spread then health officials would have been grilled for being under-prepared. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Cynicism doesn't equate with insight.