"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bingo-Player

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So im around 6 months into a relationship with my current piece and things are good shes 21 and im 25 she enjoys my life experience

She pays her way , never been any games , her sex drive is arguably higher than mine , very low maintenance etc etc etc

i screened her about past relationships very early in and there was one guy who was a childhood romance e.g 14 – 19 apparently he cheated on her she decided she had out grown him and they went their separate ways

The other was some guy she was seeing for a couple of months last year but in her words “ it just fizzled out”

Now im not bothered about either of these guys challenging me I know by default im higher value than both of them put together and so does she problem is at the end of the day she's still a woman......

from what she tells me both of them attempt to contact her at least once a month , she doesn’t respond

I don’t know either of these guys but its still irritating me that these guys are still orbiting her like 1 – 2 years on

one of these orbiters even had the cheek to try to follow me on Instagram the other week

they are both clearly still hung up on her but thats not my problem

im considering ordering her to blanket block both of them on everything , ive briefly suggested it to her before but i suspect theirs a tiny part of her little female mind which feels reluctant to do so

i dont really want to turn this into a bigger deal than it is as it could work against me

do i just leave it go as shes ignoring them anyway ?

or

do i put my foot down and order her to remove them from her life permanently ?

views please
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So im around 6 months into a relationship with my current piece and things are good shes 21 and im 25 she enjoys my life experience

She pays her way , never been any games , her sex drive is arguably higher than mine , very low maintenance etc etc etc

i screened her about past relationships very early in and there was one guy who was a childhood romance e.g 14 – 19 apparently he cheated on her she decided she had out grown him and they went their separate ways

The other was some guy she was seeing for a couple of months last year but in her words “ it just fizzled out”

Now im not bothered about either of these guys challenging me I know by default im higher value than both of them put together and so does she problem is at the end of the day she's still a woman......

from what she tells me both of them attempt to contact her at least once a month , she doesn’t respond

I don’t know either of these guys but its still irritating me that these guys are still orbiting her like 1 – 2 years on

one of these orbiters even had the cheek to try to follow me on Instagram the other week

they are both clearly still hung up on her but thats not my problem

im considering ordering her to blanket block both of them on everything , ive briefly suggested it to her before but i suspect theirs a tiny part of her little female mind which feels reluctant to do so

i dont really want to turn this into a bigger deal than it is as it could work against me

do i just leave it go as shes ignoring them anyway ?

or

do i put my foot down and order her to remove them from her life permanently ?

views please
On an occasion you witness a ''attempt'' for one of the ex.... ask her why they trying so hard to contact her after their relationship faded..... and act like it doesnt touch you or worry you but you feel sorry for the guys... and you the lucky one now

You can't act ''needy'' or ''lack of confidence''.... but you can make her view them desparate and confirm it to you (make her believe they ''weak'')....

In short word ''what's their big deal?, even joke about how the ex added you on instagram to see your selfie
 

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So im around 6 months into a relationship with my current piece and things are good shes 21 and im 25 she enjoys my life experience

She pays her way , never been any games , her sex drive is arguably higher than mine , very low maintenance etc etc etc

i screened her about past relationships very early in and there was one guy who was a childhood romance e.g 14 – 19 apparently he cheated on her she decided she had out grown him and they went their separate ways

The other was some guy she was seeing for a couple of months last year but in her words “ it just fizzled out”

Now im not bothered about either of these guys challenging me I know by default im higher value than both of them put together and so does she problem is at the end of the day she's still a woman......

from what she tells me both of them attempt to contact her at least once a month , she doesn’t respond

I don’t know either of these guys but its still irritating me that these guys are still orbiting her like 1 – 2 years on

one of these orbiters even had the cheek to try to follow me on Instagram the other week

they are both clearly still hung up on her but thats not my problem

im considering ordering her to blanket block both of them on everything , ive briefly suggested it to her before but i suspect theirs a tiny part of her little female mind which feels reluctant to do so

i dont really want to turn this into a bigger deal than it is as it could work against me

do i just leave it go as shes ignoring them anyway ?

or

do i put my foot down and order her to remove them from her life permanently ?

views please

Don't let their beta weakness for her bother you. Besides sheis only 21. Don't even take her seriously.

Date and smash until you're not having fun anymore. Then move on to the next one.

Your frame. Your lead. Your relationship. When any of those 3 stop, you leave.
 

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1. A 21 year old girl will have plenty of orbiters, probably some you don't even know about, and she will do for at least the next 10-15 years, if not longer.

2. Screening about relationships is fine. But it should naturally occur in conversation. For me, mentioning other men without any prompting is a big sign of weakness. Even if she brings other men up, learning how to react in an impartial way is a priority skill for any self respecting man.

3. I certainly wouldn't be telling her what to do or 'giving orders' about who to speak to and not speak to. From what we know, women in general aren't always keen on being told what to do. You might think it's authoritarian, but to a third party, it looks really insecure. Look at it this way; you mention a guy, and to her, it looks like you think he is more deserving than you. She won't have any choice but to agree with you.

4. She might verbally go along with your 'orders', but it will only encourage a rebellion of sorts, if not immediate, potentially in the longer term if and when you show another sign of weakness. They can't help themselves; they are just programmed to weed out the strongest men.

5. Lastly, in light of points 1-4, your only concern is how she behaves with you. If you have serious doubts or evidence that she's misbehaving then time to start planning the exit strategy.
 
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ok thanks guys

as i suspected i think im just over complicating things here , il keep an eye on her over the next couple of weeks but dont think this is really a big problem its just me wanting to massage my ego lol
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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ok thanks guys

as i suspected i think im just over complicating things here , il keep an eye on her over the next couple of weeks but dont think this is really a big problem its just me wanting to massage my ego lol
The best thing you can do for yourself is to have more going on than she does, to the point where your gravity sucks her in and makes her worry about what your doing.
 

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OP, she should be worried about YOUR orbiters. Where are they?
 
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