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Epicurus: The hierarchy of Love

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“Love is composed of single soul inhabiting two bodies.” – Aristotle

Epicurus Chapter II: Hierarchy of Love

Aristotle, one of the greatest if not the greatest philosopher of western society spent the entirety of chapter 8 of the Nicomachean Ethics discussing the hierarchy of friendship. Although in the same book he briefly laid out a foundation for his views on love, he never dove too deep into this particular topic. Similarly, I am a strong believer that a hierarchy exists in relationships with women and its quite similar to Aristotle’s. I’ll briefly explain my views on this topic.

Hierarchy of Love:

Relationship of Utility – A relationship that fundamentally consist of what a person can provide to the other, usually women are quite apt at cultivating this relationship in particular. The relationship in particular is not necessarily short in length but tends to be. It is very low quality(one sided) and will last for as long as the side who is receiving such benefits continues to receive it. Once said utility is gone, so is the foundation for the relationship. And in turn so is the relationship.

Relationship of Pleasure – Although this relationship is a step up from the previous one. Very common among the youth and general population. It still tends to be or very low quality for men who can not use it properly. The basis of this relationship is the use that two individuals can give each other. Whether it be sex, companionship or a combination of any other use humans can ultimately give each other. Once again the problem with this is that women tend to be masters at using men for the most while giving out the least possible amount in return(see marriage). But a problem still arises human are very fickle in nature for the most part and our desire and wishes quickly change. As a result, in many cases the usefulness dies out for one if not both parties and said relationship is then destroyed.

Relationship of Virtue – Most difficult and of highest possible longitude. In terms of the dating world only about the top 1 percentile fall into this category. This is the relationship drawn to another person’s goodness and the qualities of excellence they posses. Not one sided but instead focuses on mutual pleasure and goodness. One must have the ability to “The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to hate his friends.” Like Friedrich Nietzsche once said in this relationship. Meaning one must be able and willing to constructively criticize each other and build a strong and lasting foundation overall. Although it is the most rewarding and of the highest possible quality, takes a lot of time and effort while also being very rare to find.
 

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Yes, the problem with this forum is it tends to only recognize ego-driven relationships. Culture has somehow redefined itself in the modern world by conforming to the mass. It used to be about emergence from the mass toward excellences and virtues that are really only attainable for the happy few.

It is only at the summit of human experience that true friendship and love are possible. For it is the ego that has to be overcome. And then not obliterated, but distanced, so in the inner sanctum of our lives we can fully intertwine with another, of which sex is only symbolic.
 

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A couple of the best things I ever heard about relationships was to keep them 50/50 but remember 50/50 is an average you'll drive each other crazy if you try and be 50/50 everyday. The other one s that each person is always in approach intimacy or withdrawal. The kicker is that they are seldom synced.

Now on the surface they both sound blue pill ideas but if you think harder about it you're realise they are not
 

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Relationship of virtue. Ha. Like anyone has any REAL virtues nowadays aside from the dollar. As time goes on, loyalty loses more and more value in society. The younger generations don't even know what it is. I guess the phrase 'All is fair in love and war' was taken a bit too seriously.
 

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Relationship of virtue. Ha. Like anyone has any REAL virtues nowadays aside from the dollar. As time goes on, loyalty loses more and more value in society. The younger generations don't even know what it is. I guess the phrase 'All is fair in love and war' was taken a bit too seriously.
Sure, but there's still the phrase 'bros before hoes' that echoes the idea of manliness.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Excellence is the mean between excess and deficiency. The problem with the mean is that it is extremely vague. What is too much, what is too little. What is too much pride, what is too little pride. What is too much ego, what is a lack of ego?
Through our imperfections men will infinitely struggle with these matters. But if one were to find a mean, success is eminent
 

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Collective and Aristocratic/ artistic/ cultural
Relationship of virtue = reserved for rational, moral, imaginative and social animals

Individualism: rationalism/ ideological/ irrationalism
Relationship of utility = middle class bourgeois values
Relationship of pleasure = hedonism
 
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