"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Drama Queens
- Thread starter Poosy Marauder
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
BigBill
Master Don Juan
yeah Wyldfire, its getting so bad not even Take No Dirt is rushing to your defense!
Yeah, where is TND? He's been conspicuously absent. Usually, he's a postin' fool!Originally posted by BigBill:
Lol
yeah Wyldfire, its getting so bad not even Take No Dirt is rushing to your defense!
Gipper
How am I "getting bad"? I'm simply posting information that will help explain the behavior of women better to those who wish to understand it more. Nowhere am I telling anyone to change or that they have to patronize women. Yet it seems that a couple of you guys are hell bent on trying to twist what I am posting to make it appear that I am saying something entirely different than I actually am.Originally posted by BigBill:
Lol
yeah Wyldfire, its getting so bad not even Take No Dirt is rushing to your defense!
lordclem*
Master Don Juan
so we should put up with this b/s and just say 'thats just the way it is'.wyldfire why do i feel that somehow you are trying to tell ok that this is ok and should live with it?maybe cause i am the devil?
if a man does some hoes sh!t in the same vain he would be shot down and most women would think a man as weak,stupid,ect
men and women are equal,so i was faced with the question you gave as example.i would look at her..then say it is not the dress at all your totaly fat, then 'finsh her'(mortal kombat fans)by says 'thats why she needs so much make up'.........stop pull a face like i now see her in a different light....hold my mouth say i have to toilet.....and she would never see me again
i would not do that IF she was someone i REALLY wanted to have a **** bubby fling with (after i **** her the first time the only time she would see me is when we are ****ing saying hoes sh!t like that).there would really have a strong sexual connection with.after that question no longer LTR with her.
yes i am the devil (smile)
i dont seem to think that i need a woman in LTRs,marrige,whatever for some reason.this part of our social programming i duly resent(of course i dont what kids are you mad?if i do i will maybe adopt one 3yrs and up)we are told that we should go thought education,get a good job(hopefully one that PAYS well,dont matter if you would be infintely happier owning a comic shop)then you get married,have kids and die.changes are if you miss out some of these your labeled a 'loser'. why dont you get married tony??...are you gay tony?....tony if you love me marry me are thats it. how may people get married because its THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
where does married come from? religion! most people dont belive in any god and yet they get married
BACK ON TRACK
yes i really would think very little of a woman who plays these HOE games.
personaly a lot depends on this (well not that much)have you ever meet a woman who does not 'need drama' ? i sure hope they exist...wait i meet some about 5 in total!
oh where do you think women learn this stuff??
hit me back
lordclem
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
The point I am trying to make to Wildthang is that men can no more expect women to change to suit what he wants than they can expect him to change to suit what they want. Things don't work that way and the sooner a person figures that out the better, because it saves them an awful lot of heartache.
Likewise, you can't force someone to be able to communicate in the same way you do. This conversation is a perfect example. I KNOW that I am not telling anyone they have to accept behavior they don't want to deal with, but some of the men here are convinced that's what I am saying. Lord knows I am trying to be as clear as I possibly can to get my point across, but some people are just not understanding me. Those guys most likely are feeling the same way about what they are trying to get across to me. It's not anyone's fault, it's just the way things are sometimes.
lordclem*
Master Don Juan
the devil i tell you ...the devil
Don the Legend
Master Don Juan
The Drama Queen
There are people who cannot do without some constant drama in their lives--it is their way of deflecting boredom. The greatest mistake you can make in seducing these Drama Queens is to come offering stability and security. That will only make them run for the hills. Most often, Drama Queens(and there are plenty of men in this category) enjoy playing the victim. They want something to complain about, they want pain. Pain is a source of pleasure for them. With this type, you have to be willing and able to give them the mental rough treatment they desire. That is the only way to seduce them in a deep manner. The moment you turn too nice, they will find some reason to quarrel or get rid of you.
You recognize Drama Queens by the number of people who have hurt them, the tradegies and traumas that have befallen them. At the extreme, they can be hopelessly selfish and anti-seductive, but most of them are relatively harmless and will make fine victims if you can live with the sturm und drang. If for some reason you want something long term with this type, you will constantly have to inject drama into your relationship. For some this can be an exciting challenge and a source for constantly renewing the relationship. Generally, however, you should see an involvement with a Drama Queen as something fleeting and a way to bring a little drama into your own life.
Hope this helps!
Legend
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Don the Legend
Master Don Juan
Hey Gip,
It's good. There is some redundancy with this site and the book. But it is very interesting. I like it as much as his other book, "48 Laws of Power", which I highly recommend for every DJ.
Here is a link to read a little bio on the book: http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=684JSJAML6&mscssid=A0F3KRJF8C9B9G0KVLS4J214QGDN16KD&isbn=0670891924
If I don't talk to you before tomorrow, have a great Thanksgiving!
Take Care,
Legend
Originally posted by Don the Legend:
Hey Gip,
It's good. There is some redundancy with this site and the book. But it is very interesting. I like it as much as his other book, "48 Laws of Power", which I highly recommend for every DJ.
Here is a link to read a little bio on the book: http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/ isbnInquiry.asp?userid=684JSJAML6&mscssid=A0F3KRJF8C9B9G0KVLS4J214QGDN16KD&isbn=0670891924
If I don't talk to you before tomorrow, have a great Thanksgiving!
Take Care,
Legend
Thanks Don. I have "48 Laws of Power" and loved it.
And Happy Thanksgiving to you! And to all my DJ amigos!
Gipper
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Chill out on Wyldfire - she's just trying to help. And she hit it right on the head: in this discussion, you guys are playing the role of chicks and she's the man. She's being completely logical and consistent: she agreed with you all that a lot of women are drama queens and gave you suggestions for how to deal with them. Then you guys flame her and tell her to somehow change how all women act. Guess what? I don't think she can do that and she's trying to help in the best way she can.