jtrain 289
Senior Don Juan
Ive talked to 90 girls but i havent had one h/u yet i only got 3 numbers so far . Do you guys have any answers to this
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dont seem to be improving
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
jtrain 289
Senior Don Juan
random sarging the thing is most of thetime after about 1 minute they start like walking really fast or they ask me why r u talking to me in a mean kind of way its not just one of them its alot of them one girl ran away and went to her mom and said i was stalking her since im in the bronx this summer thats where i sarge and i hav concluded most of those girls are *****es
these girls run away!?! wow...I'm not trying to be funny but its not your physical appearance is it? Maybe your missing something there. They may think your a dealer or something. If its not that examine what your saying to them. You may be coming across as a pervert.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Also are you approaching and just talking? You need to smile, move, and challenge her.
I meet so many people that can only speak in a conversation, they don't respond and they don't wait. They just want to keep on talking, like telling the same story or bringing up the same point like 20 times in the same night.
When you speak with a girl you should have a smile on your face, like a genuine smile, not a huge grin. IMagine her first thought being "look at him, why isn't he smiling" than put the smile on your face, after she sees you. Than approach since you will have eye contact. Than talk to the girl.
Don't just go up and say random things, try to get her involved.
You can start with *smile* "do you have the time?" which should be very easy. Than move on, try to make her smile right away, tell her she has nice shoes, and say "thats why I got the time from you, and not that guy". After you make her smile ask her for her name, introduce yourself, tell her you aren't from around here even if you live right next door to her.
Does any of that make sense to you right now, or would it be better if I just shut up?
I meet so many people that can only speak in a conversation, they don't respond and they don't wait. They just want to keep on talking, like telling the same story or bringing up the same point like 20 times in the same night.
When you speak with a girl you should have a smile on your face, like a genuine smile, not a huge grin. IMagine her first thought being "look at him, why isn't he smiling" than put the smile on your face, after she sees you. Than approach since you will have eye contact. Than talk to the girl.
Don't just go up and say random things, try to get her involved.
You can start with *smile* "do you have the time?" which should be very easy. Than move on, try to make her smile right away, tell her she has nice shoes, and say "thats why I got the time from you, and not that guy". After you make her smile ask her for her name, introduce yourself, tell her you aren't from around here even if you live right next door to her.
Does any of that make sense to you right now, or would it be better if I just shut up?