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met her off occupied. Thought I was getting a 7/10 with a good personality. Turned out to be a strong 8.5 maybe a 9. I was blown away in person by how good she looked.

Went to movie, she was very shy... I assumed she didn't like me. But I still didn't want to rule out the possibility of shyness so as we are walking out the movie i tested her and asked if she wanted to go grab some food. figured if she wasn't interested she would of said "no i have to go" or something.

We started talking and the date started turning around for the better quickly. Caught her staring at me a couple times eye contact was heavy. When we were walking off she followed me to my car so I went in for the kiss. She kissed me. But Unfortunately when I tried to take things further by grabbing her ass and making out with her she didn't accept. No she didn't push me off her but I got the vibe "dude you shouldn't of done that"

Do you think there is a chance she was just trying to kiss me to be nice or did she actually like me?

Should I apologize? Not text her for a few days? what you think?
 

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sounds like you held back a little bit to much at first, then proceeded too quickly. It doesn't always work to jump right from the kiss to the grope, you need to work up the kino escalation latter. You need to build up in steps to feeling a girl up, if the kiss is going well, you can tell by her body language if more touching is appropriate.

If a girl is REALLY into you and waiting on you to make a move sometimes you can go right in for it right after the kiss, but not usually.

Do not apologize to her at all!!!
 

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captain55 said:
Unfortunately when I tried to take things further by grabbing her ass and making out with her she didn't accept. No she didn't push me off her but I got the vibe "dude you shouldn't of done that"

Do you think there is a chance she was just trying to kiss me to be nice or did she actually like me?
For some girls it doesn't matter, but for most (IMO) always hint at what your going to do before you do it.

Women love anticipation and are less resistant if they are expecting it.

Touch her playfully before you hold her, hold eye contact a little longer and look at her lips when you talk to her, comment on how nice she smells and lean in to sniff her before you kiss her. Suggest she come to you place (unless you're in a club or bar) before you start making out.

Don't bother touching her ass until you're fvcking her.

Again you don't always have to do this but I do this almost always.
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Should I apologize?
Do what you want but do NOT apologise.
 

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MtnMan said:
sounds like you held back a little bit to much at first, then proceeded too quickly. It doesn't always work to jump right from the kiss to the grope, you need to work up the kino escalation latter. You need to build up in steps to feeling a girl up, if the kiss is going well, you can tell by her body language if more touching is appropriate.

If a girl is REALLY into you and waiting on you to make a move sometimes you can go right in for it right after the kiss, but not usually.

Do not apologize to her at all!!!
At first I gave her a hug, and then I slowly went in for the kiss. Don't know if this will help you guys give a better picture but when we were texting i asked her if she had any kids. because I don't date chicks with kids..

she told me "nope I'm still a virgin..so yeah lol"

Im sure she was lying, but what if she wasn't? could that of explained the shyness?

Ive just never had a girl kiss me like that before. Almost like she was "unsure" about me
 

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You have to build up to that kind of touching. Once you're fvcking or in a heated make out session, then bombs away. Grab everything you can but for a first kiss when you haven't built enough comfortable kino, it will just give her creeper vibes.

You have to build up to it.
 
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El Payaso said:
You have to build up to that kind of touching. Once you're fvcking or in a heated make out session, then bombs away. Grab everything you can but for a first kiss when you haven't built enough comfortable kino, it will just gibe her creeper vibes.

You have to build up to it.
^This. EP explained this better than I did.
 

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MtnMan said:
then proceeded too quickly. It doesn't always work to jump right from the kiss to the grope, you need to work up the kino escalation latter. You need to build up in steps to feeling a girl up, if the kiss is going well, you can tell by her body language if more touching is appropriate.
As MtnMan said, you need to exercise more patience which is somethiing I struggle with as well. Remember this is a dance, a back and forth, learn to have fun with the tension and allow it to build.

Believe me, the best sex I've ever had was after a nice buildup of sexual tension. It makes it THAT much better!
 

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Just tried calling her and she did not pick up ):

I wasn't really expecting her to but I didn't want to send a text without calling her. IMO its easier for a girl to turn down a guy through texts.

Ill give it till tonight I guess, hope she was just busy
 

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I've fvcked up like this before. It's sheer frustration and emotion. Chick was walking up the stairs and I went 'Mr Tickle' on that @ss. You want something, anything. But patience is a weapon for us fellas. Gotta be in the zone or making it feel like she's chasing us. She wants it. Not easy.
 

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These times we live in suck...

Imagine going on a date in the Stone Age, lol. You'd just be walking around in the jungle and see a chick. IOI's are exchanged, body language confirms that you like each other, so you start kino'ing and kissing. The two of you don't even know how to talk, lol, so you don't have to do neg hits or say other smart azz stuff that raises your value or whatever.
Then when you grab her azz, she puts up resistance but hey, you're stronger than she is, so you just force yourself upon her, lol. Nobody gives a fvck, no police or annoying White Knights to bother you, just have your way with her.
Next morning, she's probably mad at you. But she's gonna get killed out there by an animal or from starvation coz she can't hunt by herself, so she needs you to protect her. This, combined with the fact that she was attracted to you anyway, makes her forgive you for forcing yourself upon her. She'll stay with you and start loving you and suck your d!ck whenever you want, THE END.

Just a thought I was having, lol.
 

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she followed me to my car so I went in for the kiss. She kissed me. But Unfortunately when I tried to take things further by grabbing her ass and making out with her she didn't accept. No she didn't push me off her but I got the vibe "dude you shouldn't of done that"
Was this out in public? Was it dark? Maybe she wasn't into PDA's. I've had plenty of girls kiss me out in the open in the day time, but grabbing the a$$ out in public might be taking it a step to far. Being a savage has it's benefits, but as has been mentioned, if the build up isn't there and the timing's off, it can backfire. Time and a place.

If you can kiss and leave it at that.....leave them wanting more, then you're on the right track. If you push and push, and she's not feeling it herself then she may see you as someone who's not in control of his actions or emotions.

Show your sexual manly side through the kiss, but you end the kiss, you pull away. Leave her wanting.... take it as giving her a preview of more to come.
 

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For me, it's better to be a bit forward than to lay back. And I've had this kind of 'move' go both ways. Some women get pissed enough to write you off, some don't. You demonstrated that you desired her, perhaps a bit too much, too soon.

Let her think about what that means.

Meanwhile, play it a little more smoothly... if you get the chance.
 

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Tictac said:
if you get the chance.
And if you do, play it off as if it never happened.

Kudos on being forward though. You're better off doing that than ending up being thought of as nothing but the dreaded best guy friend.
 
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