Doctors, Lawyers, Dentists

[Bible_Belt]

This is a good thread with a lot of valuable perspectives.

I have a law degree but never took the bar exam. I should, but I'm just not interested in the profession. Law is glorified, overpaid paper-pushing. I liked my professors at law school and most of my classmates, but I just don't like attorneys. There must be exceptions...somewhere...but I find lawyers to be selfish, vain, greedy, lazy, and dishonest people. The jokes are true. Lawyers really are scum. By the way, if I were an attorney, I would not be allowed to tell you that. One may not make disparaging comments about the profession; that is a violation of the ethics rules, and one of the few that the bar association would actually enforce.

 

[Kailex]

America is where you meet your end. My advice is to try out your gay side. America is HEAVEN for those who like butt fun.

Ummm, sure.

Had a pizza boy try to give me head, but I was able to fight him off. No tip for him.

Had another dude try to give me a hand job on an elevator. He had a strong grip.

I have walked in on guys doing it in bathrooms. One time it was four guys at once. One was standing on the counter.

If America is HEAVEN for butt fun, I wonder what Ukraine would be.

 

[iliketennis]

hi to all the lawyers, i'm a graduating 3L

 

[FutureSpartan]

Yeah. Keep telling yourself that it's only drunks and rich boys who go out and meet women in college. Most of my social circle in college...like 90% of them...worked part time to make extra money. And they STILL made time to meet people. Whether it was joining clubs or concerts, or frats, or sports.

It doesn't take crazy weekend trips or nice clothes. It takes being a cool, social person. You didn't have to burn your school books and ignore your studying...you just had to make time to interact with people.



I love how you totally ignored my earlier post because it offered a different perspective from what you were saying.

If your life sucks, it's because you're making it suck. Don't blame jobs or college majors for YOUR lack of success with women. You were in control of those things and you f**ked up.

Correct. If you don't make time go out and socialize, then obviously no women is going to make time to socialize with you.

You chose studying/working and feeling sorry for yourself over meeting people. And now you're judging the men who DID build success in their social lives by criticizing their majors, how they paid for college...and calling them "Mr Party Like a Rockstar." You never had to party like a rock star...you just had to be fun to be around. My brother's an engineering major, my best friend's a doctor, and my ex is a lawyer. We ALL had active social lives in addition to being successful in school and careers.

Stop trying to deflect the blame by placing it on outside factors. You did it to yourself and now you have to fix it.

I wasnt a shut-in. I had friends and made an effort to go out and socialize. I partied when I had the time. I dated a girl for a year most guys would marry if given the chance. Did all this despite living with my crazy parents and going to a commuter school where most everyone sticks to their own social circle.

But I agree with you though. if I had realized I needed to emulate certain attractive attributes from the "party guys," I would have been able to get in good with the girls that were down to party. It wouldnt have made things any easier with all the other stuff I had going on but at least I could have had more balance and fulfillment.

Now I have my own place with money to spend and weekends to party so now the onus is on me to make it happen like i wanted to college.

 

[nismo-4]

Women f*ck the "fun guy with no future" and marry the "boring stable provider" when they want to settle down.

What a sh*tty proposition for young guys like me....you either throw away your future for some pus*y now or study/work hard, be branded "boring and predictable" by women, and look forward to being "husband material" after she's done f*cking the whole football team in her 20s.

I f**kin' died laughing!!!

I do know this, women can do bad all by themselves. They go out and make their own goddamn money. Hell, they'll go f**k the whole football and basketball team in their 40's before marrying a lawyer or doctor!

If you couldn't get consistently laid in your young years, better go for a bright future. I wasn't the best looking guy in school, hell I used to get ribbed on every day! And in college, I pimped my ride and had no problem getting girls. Especially when I was delivering pizzas. If I f**ked a wife or a girlfriend, I wouldn't know it until ex post facto.

@ amoka, you forgot to add music moguls! They get mad money and mad sex!

@ Lexington, not a lot of guys are born with million dollar looks, let alone a million dollars. Most guys know they don't have either of these, so they figure it's best to just go after money.

@ Miles28, I work in a real estate office and I noticed the same thing. It's very few females and the married men have been through many divorces. If you're ugly, a high paying career won't fix that physical sh*t. But the fact remains that girls like guys who are rich. Hit the powerball or mega millions lottery and watch how many women want to get with you. Sometimes I lie and say I play for the Dallas Cowboys! That's like saying you're driving a Phantom!

@ Desert Fox, money equals pu$$y always. But since you're always at an office, boring and stable as hell, you're more than likely to get divorces and breakups. Women these days have their own office work to deal with and they settle down with one of these guys (AFCs) because they can't find DJ's!

@ Espi, That might only bring an obstacle in the form of a golddigger.

 

[Desert Fox]

Iceberg, nobody is crying about how their life sucks.

I don't get as much women as frat boys and people who party 10x more than me, but that doesn't mean I think my life sucks.

My goal in life is to be remembered for some significant accomplishment or contribution I made to society. If I get some how pieces of pvssy along the way more power to me, but my primary goal is not that.

Meeting women is easy. A little kid can do it. Literally.

Making yourself something more than the average man, the average chump is difficult. It's all about priorities. Some people may not have long term goals and party away their college years. 4 years of bliss and joy.

And after that its FedEx package deliveries or bagging groceries for the next 40 years. Not in all cases of course, but what I said before stands as a universal truth:

1. There is limited time.
2. Time you use to do one thing cannot be used to do another.
3. The choice is yours.

 

[BigJimbo]

Ummm, sure.



If America is HEAVEN for butt fun, I wonder what Ukraine would be.

Ukraine is heaven for beautiful girls that you never see in America. Not the Jewish immigrants that showed up in NY and NJ. Those are different. I am talking about the real ones. Ukraine doesn't celebrate homosexuality. No parades or "gay" areas in any town. It is what it is. A plethora of gorgeous traditional girls who want guys like me. Don't hate. I am sure you can find plenty of Puerto Ricans in NJ.

 

[Iceberg]

Iceberg, nobody is crying about how their life sucks.

I don't get as much women as frat boys and people who party 10x more than me, but that doesn't mean I think my life sucks.

My goal in life is to be remembered for some significant accomplishment or contribution I made to society. If I get some how pieces of pvssy along the way more power to me, but my primary goal is not that.

Yeah, but who's saying that our primary goal is banging women. In college, my goal was to graduate, do something awesome with my life, and along the way, learn how to socialize, make friends and get women.

That's what bothers me about this "Party guys get all the chicks." excuse. You don't have to be a "frat boy" to get women. You just have to be fun to be around and interesting.

Making yourself something more than the average man, the average chump is difficult. It's all about priorities. Some people may not have long term goals and party away their college years. 4 years of bliss and joy.

...And some people party, make friends, get women, and still move on to accomplish their goals in life. It's not like there is CHOICE A and CHOICE B. You can do both. It's not like, "Ah, I can't have accomplishments in life!! Too many people like me!!"

And after that its FedEx package deliveries or bagging groceries for the next 40 years. Not in all cases of course, but what I said before stands as a universal truth:

1. There is limited time.
2. Time you use to do one thing cannot be used to do another.
3. The choice is yours.

Yeah, but going back to your post on the first page, you seem to believe that there are two paths. One path is studying and getting a good job, and not having women. The other is partying, meeting women, and getting a crap job. That's is terribly oversimplifying.

If anything, both of these paths need to converge in order for your life to be "successful." The "nerd" has great grades, but doesn't know how to interact with people. Being social is crucial in maintaining a successful career. The "party guy" knows how to make friends. But if he can't focus on a professional goal, then obviously he can't have a profession.

It's not that the social people don't have goals. And it's not that an academic person can't have a social life. That's nonsense. And I know you're not SAYING anything that extreme...but let's be honest...you're hinting at it. People can balance a healthy academic life and a healthy social life. In fact, in order to be truly "successful" and "accomplished" it's almost a requirement. Unless you're some kind of Mozart-level genius...which 99% of us aren't. There's going to need to be a combination of "Desert Fox is a great worker" and "Desert Fox is really great to be around, and the staff loves him."

 

[Zarky]

I'm a lawyer who makes jack sh!t because I run my own "firm" which makes me about $1500/month.

And WTF with "dentists?"

 

[prairiedog24]

This is a good thread with a lot of valuable perspectives.

I have a law degree but never took the bar exam. I should, but I'm just not interested in the profession. Law is glorified, overpaid paper-pushing. I liked my professors at law school and most of my classmates, but I just don't like attorneys. There must be exceptions...somewhere...but I find lawyers to be selfish, vain, greedy, lazy, and dishonest people. The jokes are true. Lawyers really are scum. By the way, if I were an attorney, I would not be allowed to tell you that. One may not make disparaging comments about the profession; that is a violation of the ethics rules, and one of the few that the bar association would actually enforce.

Listen to this man... he knows.

I have my Prof Res final next week and the MPRE in a month or two. Wish me luck. I'd better get my disparaging remarks out while I can. :rockon:

I'm a lawyer who makes jack sh!t because I run my own "firm" which makes me about $1500/month.

I hate my classmates for not believing that $50-60k/yr for a single guy is good money and to be happy with it, but enough with the pro bono dude! I made twice that working at everyone's favorite crappy electronics store. You are seriously way to nice to people or something.

 

[JCballin88]

I have other friends that are basically nerds and study probably 80 hours a week. They will have very lucrative jobs in econ or medicine or law, but I can't say I've ever seen them with women or even really hang out with any in a social setting. They are also very miserable and high strung 90% of the time.

Haha, you just described my roommate to a tee. Even as a type this, he's been up on his bed studying for 14 hours straight for a freshman-level overview course. He's a mechanical engineer who just got a job back home for about 50k a year.

I on the other hand am a Communications major with no job prospects (I still have one more year in school), but at least I know how to have a good time once in a while. The only girl I've ever seen my roommate speak to in eight months is his one friend's girlfriend.