Simple question. Most likely complex answers. Do any of you feel women these days value faithfulness in a guy? Or is due to countless people cheating and the medias brainwashing of women and most of society made being a faithful, trustworthy guy a thing of the past or seem as a boring nice guy or lame? Is being confident but faithful seen as 'safe' and 'dull'? I'm not sure anymore.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Do you think women value faithfulness in a guy these days?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Probably depends on the females. I'm sure there are some who don't care and some who do.
Generally speaking though, I don't think it's one of their priorities. They may say it is, but they like a man who they can "fix".
Generally speaking though, I don't think it's one of their priorities. They may say it is, but they like a man who they can "fix".
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Faithfulness, loyalty, honor, integrity= Dead at a young age with little to no female companionship.
Women go for exciting lies as opposed to boring truths.
Most men are as faithful as their options because:
1. Men don't hold the sex card. Women do.
2. Men chase and women choose.
3. Women do most of the dumping.
4. Men are sometimes scared to let one girl go because they fear or know they won't get another one anytime soon. Even if she is ass ugly.
5. Women control the dating game and love markets.
6. Women always have more options than men.
7. Men get whoever they CAN. Sometimes they luck up and get who they want.
8. Too many f**kin' guys are willing to play the women's games and fail.
9. Men hold the relationship card, but that's laughable at best, and lame at worst.
10. All women have boyfriends and husbands, but most men don't have girlfriends and wives.
Men these days try to stay faithful because they have few or no prospects. I've seen a lot of men rush into a relationship or marriage to have SOME SORT of female love. Even worse, I've watched men come out of the closet because they can't be loved by women.
Women value how a guy looks physically and financially. Faithfulness, personality, swagger, vibe, and all that other sh*t comes later.
Sad but true.
In answer to the OP's question:
In English: NO.
In Spanish: NO.
In German: NEIN.
In Russian: NYET.
In Ebonics: HELL NAW!
In Reality: F**K NO!
Case closed.
Women go for exciting lies as opposed to boring truths.
Most men are as faithful as their options because:
1. Men don't hold the sex card. Women do.
2. Men chase and women choose.
3. Women do most of the dumping.
4. Men are sometimes scared to let one girl go because they fear or know they won't get another one anytime soon. Even if she is ass ugly.
5. Women control the dating game and love markets.
6. Women always have more options than men.
7. Men get whoever they CAN. Sometimes they luck up and get who they want.
8. Too many f**kin' guys are willing to play the women's games and fail.
9. Men hold the relationship card, but that's laughable at best, and lame at worst.
10. All women have boyfriends and husbands, but most men don't have girlfriends and wives.
Men these days try to stay faithful because they have few or no prospects. I've seen a lot of men rush into a relationship or marriage to have SOME SORT of female love. Even worse, I've watched men come out of the closet because they can't be loved by women.
Women value how a guy looks physically and financially. Faithfulness, personality, swagger, vibe, and all that other sh*t comes later.
Sad but true.
In answer to the OP's question:
In English: NO.
In Spanish: NO.
In German: NEIN.
In Russian: NYET.
In Ebonics: HELL NAW!
In Reality: F**K NO!
Case closed.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
SoldMySoul
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^^^^^this right fvcking here^^^ also just like Nismo pointed out!! Another thing, women could justify cheating on your a$$ just because you had and argument or anything else mundane or small. In their mind, pay back is fair in the payment form of cheating on you.betheman said:
Yeah, the value, expect you to be faithful, but their illogical emotions make it okay to cheat on you. Make sense??? If it doesn't..not to worry.. Any dude that thinks he woman will NOT cheat is looking at a sad future!! There is nothing that can be done if they are going to cheat! YOu just have to do the best you can as a man and hope she does the best she can as the beauty and NOT the beast she is capable of!!! Ingrain this $hit deep into your mind.
coochieman
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"Faithfulness" almost means "No options". Final.
The only time she'd value it is if she's sure there's a multitude like hers desperately waiting to bang you and somehow you seem not to be interested in all that at the time....
Understand this...... She'd really rather prefer to have you slipping and making few silly mistakes with a bit of the lot chasing you than she knowing that she's likely the only good thing you have going on for you.
Also know that you cannot stop a woman from cheating if she wants to and she would be prepared to justify it with some funny/not-so funny reasons. No bad in all this though. The game's a market and everybody's just looking for the best buy their money can get.
The only time she'd value it is if she's sure there's a multitude like hers desperately waiting to bang you and somehow you seem not to be interested in all that at the time....
Understand this...... She'd really rather prefer to have you slipping and making few silly mistakes with a bit of the lot chasing you than she knowing that she's likely the only good thing you have going on for you.
Also know that you cannot stop a woman from cheating if she wants to and she would be prepared to justify it with some funny/not-so funny reasons. No bad in all this though. The game's a market and everybody's just looking for the best buy their money can get.
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I would imagine they do, but I've heard and personally experienced women being very attracted to men who cheat on them. It's F@$%&ing weird, but true in some cases. Don't know about older women tho (25+) they might like value it more than younger women, since younger know they have their youth and can take a chance on bad boys at that point in their life.
Good luck player and may you start (or continue to) banging beautiful scarlets like a super star.
Good luck player and may you start (or continue to) banging beautiful scarlets like a super star.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Victory Unlimited
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Most women who place a lot of value in the faithfulness of guys are typically women who:
A. are "faithful" themselves, and want a guy who holds himself to similar standards
B. are "unfaithful" themselves, but want to make sure that the sucker they're using, I mean "dating" remains under their control
C. have been "burned" so many times by bad boys, thugs, or jerks that they are NOW so paranoid that they suspect every guy they meet of being unfaithful
As you can see, as equally important as whether women value "faithfulness" or not, is the question of "Why" they value it.
Choose your women WISELY and vet them THOROUGHLY, men...
V.U.
A. are "faithful" themselves, and want a guy who holds himself to similar standards
B. are "unfaithful" themselves, but want to make sure that the sucker they're using, I mean "dating" remains under their control
C. have been "burned" so many times by bad boys, thugs, or jerks that they are NOW so paranoid that they suspect every guy they meet of being unfaithful
As you can see, as equally important as whether women value "faithfulness" or not, is the question of "Why" they value it.
Choose your women WISELY and vet them THOROUGHLY, men...
V.U.
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not really because women see, view that as "ass-kissing, kissing-up" and thats why the nice-guy never gets laid or any action.
PapiChulo
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Boils down to what VU and betheman said. This actually reminded of a woman who left her husband because he fathered 5 kids with many other women. Guess what, she is still in love with the guy. I suppose every woman with the head crewed on tight will (should) value faithfulness if she hopes to have a lasting relationship.
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Faithfulness is fine, but it's not going to help ATTRACT her, unless she is the conservative type who really values that.
How many faithful, loyal nice guys get rejected? Many. These are good traits, but they aren't in most women's top ten list.
She wants a hot, rich guy who is faithful, but she'll settle for a hot rich guy who isn't faithful because gina tingle trumps ALL.
How many faithful, loyal nice guys get rejected? Many. These are good traits, but they aren't in most women's top ten list.
She wants a hot, rich guy who is faithful, but she'll settle for a hot rich guy who isn't faithful because gina tingle trumps ALL.
Being confident has nothing to do with being safe and dull, being confident means you are focused and know what you want, and won't let a girl distract you from your goal.Bumsniff said:
As to the original question, women will value faithfulness the same way a company will value an employee or a hockey team will value a player, it only is important to them if they think others want you.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
cablecow15
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I think women think they value faithfulness , but i truly doubt that it would be something to attract them to you
zekko
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I agree with Mike and Cablecow. A girl may want you to be faithful, but it's not an attraction factor.
First you have to meet her attractivess baseline, then and only then will she start thinking about things like faithfulness.
It's like me, I value loyalty and faithfulness, but if it's in a girl I'm not physically attracted to, it's worthless and means nothing to me.
First you have to meet her attractivess baseline, then and only then will she start thinking about things like faithfulness.
It's like me, I value loyalty and faithfulness, but if it's in a girl I'm not physically attracted to, it's worthless and means nothing to me.
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Zekko's got it right. Your faithfulness is inconsequential to attracting a woman, but I believe any confident and self-respecting woman would dump a guy if they found out he cheated. They're rare, but these are the only kinds of girls I would get into committed relationships with.
Personally, I don't cheat, never have. I've been with plenty of girls who were cheating on their boyfriend, but I would never take them seriously. It goes against my values and I think it's scummy thing to do. If I want to have sex with multiple women, I just keep casual relationships. I don't agree to be exclusive with a girl if I had no intention of keeping my word. If I've committed to a girl and want other girls, I don't cheat on her, I break up with her.
It's a personal choice that has nothing to do with being "afc" or "alpha". It's my personal choice not to, because women are people too and I treat all people I choose to spend time with in my life with a certain respect. Being good with women has nothing to do with dehumanizing women. That comes from a place of bitterness and while you might still get laid a lot with this attitude, in the end it's no good for your personal happiness and inner game. To hold that kind of resentment. If you want a real quality girl, you have to hold yourself to the same standard. A girl who stays with you after you repeatedly cheat on her will be very unhappy, probably hate herself a little. Why would you want to spend time with a girl who you made miserable? That's just sadistic. If you're doing it for a power rush or to stroke your ego, oh PLEASE. Arrogance is not confidence and is easily broken.
Personally, I don't cheat, never have. I've been with plenty of girls who were cheating on their boyfriend, but I would never take them seriously. It goes against my values and I think it's scummy thing to do. If I want to have sex with multiple women, I just keep casual relationships. I don't agree to be exclusive with a girl if I had no intention of keeping my word. If I've committed to a girl and want other girls, I don't cheat on her, I break up with her.
It's a personal choice that has nothing to do with being "afc" or "alpha". It's my personal choice not to, because women are people too and I treat all people I choose to spend time with in my life with a certain respect. Being good with women has nothing to do with dehumanizing women. That comes from a place of bitterness and while you might still get laid a lot with this attitude, in the end it's no good for your personal happiness and inner game. To hold that kind of resentment. If you want a real quality girl, you have to hold yourself to the same standard. A girl who stays with you after you repeatedly cheat on her will be very unhappy, probably hate herself a little. Why would you want to spend time with a girl who you made miserable? That's just sadistic. If you're doing it for a power rush or to stroke your ego, oh PLEASE. Arrogance is not confidence and is easily broken.