Do you call a female out on her bullsh*t like I do? ;p

[spiegel549]

I am a zero games, zero bullsh*t type of guy, its how the males in my family are, its how my east coast male friends are. Its how I was raised.

On some occasions I get annoyed at women feeding me really obvious BS excuses, that I call them out on it lol. Sometimes I get there interest level to raise because they aren't use to it and its new to them. Sometimes they are in shock and don't say anything at all LOL. Especially in Los Angeles these broads are NOT use to someone putting them in check.

I was honestly curious how many of you take the "call the bit*h out" approach, compared to the "say nothing and ignore" approach.

A good example is I was talking to a girl in the bar, she was chatting my brains out, lots of kino etc. Getting together came up and I said, "why don't you give me your number and we can go out sometime." She started giving me all these really obvious BS excuses so I cut her off and said "Listen if you don't want to give me your number just say so, no need to come up with a bunch of bs, I wont lose sleep over it lol."

She had this stare in her face like "wow.." she gave me her number, we fvuked 2 days later lol.


So how many of you take the call her out approach compared to the say nothing approach? And what are your results?

 

[El Payaso]

It works with some women and it doesn't. The key is to use it from a position of power.

 

[spiegel549]

It works with some women and it doesn't. The key is to use it from a position of power.

Tell me more..I want to make sure we are on the same page with understanding correctly what you mean by "from a position of power."

 

[bigneil]

What El Payaso means is, you can only lay down the law when she is calling you. You can't call her and say "I don't want to see you anymore", or she'll laugh (ask me how I know).

Call her on her bad behavior (Louis and Copeland, 2000).

But getting the number shouldn't be a problem. Even if you get it, 25% of the time they never reply. Even if they reply, 75% of the time there is no date.

A successful seducer only has sex with 1 in 4 of the women he dates, and he only gets dates with 1 of the 10 women he asks, or 1 in 40 oveall (Louis and Copeland, 2000). Don't have 39 sad posts for every score.

 

[El Payaso]

Tell me more..I want to make sure we are on the same page with understanding correctly what you mean by "from a position of power."

By position of power, I mean when she is heavily invested in in you or she perceives you to have higher value than her. When any of these two are involved, you can pretty much say anything to a woman and she will still want to fvck you (even though you came across as a d!ck)

An example of calling a woman out from a position of weakness would be when a man who has very obvious low value is trying to get a woman's number but she gives him an obvious bs excuse. Calling her out won't change her mind.

Be careful when calling a woman out on her bs from a power of position though. Once you state your opinion, don't hang around to debate or argue why she wouldn't give you get number. Just call her out and move on quickly or you will easily come across as sour grapes.

 

[spiegel549]

El Payaso & bigneil Thanks for the explanations my brothers, I wanted to make sure I was thinking the same thing.

bigneil Its funny how those numbers work huh haha. To think of the statistics behind the process of meeting a woman:

-Making the approach & her giving you her number
-Reaching out to her to set up a date and her actually responding
-Day of the date will she flake/cancel or actually show up
-After the first date will you ever see her again
Etc Etc.

Its a process that can eat a lot men up alive but its just a process that all men need to go through. I remember when I was 19 I was awful with approaching women. Now at 27, my game & confidence is through the roof. (always learning and improving of course)

Its funny. Cool. Thanks for the responses guys.