"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Do low quality women play by the rules?

phil2015

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Hi Guys

A question here regarding a recent scenario I had regarding 2 women I dated very briefly from POF. My question is, do low quality/trashy females respond/ react to the rules?

Here's the 2 examples ;

Girl 1 - HB 7 on good day - Took her out on date, bytch shield up from get go, negativity, talking about her ex etc from start of date - Proceeded to get drunk before inviting herself to my place and putting out
Spoke to her day after saying I had a good night, she responded by stating she "Did not know what she wanted from a relationship " at which point I said goodbye and fell silent - Got a text 3 days later, her inviting me out, we went for a walk for an hour then I received a text stating she did want a relationship, but she didn't know if she could have one with me

Girl 2 - HB 6/7 tattooed retro single mummy - Invited herself to my place, date went well, very happy, good convo and then she put out and left in morning - She contacted me for another date at my place which I agreed. Got place ready for 8pm, tidied, got beer in fridge, bought nibbles etc and she didn't show up - Got drunken call from her at 11:45pm stating she went out for a few drinks and got carried away, she then appears outside and passes out crying on couch before vomiting in toilet - She left without word a few hours later

In regards to the above females, my question remains the same ; Was this something inherently behavioural to the women or did I do something wrong?? They both put out so must've had at least decent IL

I'd recently bought C.Waynes 3% man book, I look after myself, I'm wealthy and a decent looking bloke.....So was this me? Or was it them?

Also, does this happen everywhere or just in the UK?
How would you guys have acted/reacted?

Regards,

Phil
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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old married dude

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#1 doesn't sound that horrible, but #2 sounds like an absolute mess! :crackup:
 

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Phil, I believe you are doing everything right. It is just bad luck in conjunction with POF. I believe it is full of CRAZY/MESS, so thread carefully. Don't take those seriously as 95% will be messed in the head one way or another. Take what you can and learn, don't be down on yourself bro.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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soulforge

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blind_one said:
Phil, I believe you are doing everything right. It is just bad luck in conjunction with POF. I believe it is full of CRAZY/MESS, so thread carefully. Don't take those seriously as 95% will be messed in the head one way or another. Take what you can and learn, don't be down on yourself bro.

I have had two short term relationships off POF they ended badly..

Most of these girls will not make any effort, as they can always go back on there, and find some other dude


Be very careful.. these girls have alot of issues
 

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Ok first of all you’re getting laid so you’re doing something right and these don’t exactly sound like the type of women you want hanging about long term anyway so no great loss

A couple of quick Q’s

How old are you?

What type of woman are you looking for?

Are you looking for long term or just one night stands?

Im my opinion the women that are on dating sites like POF and the like, are on their because they are either heavily psychotic or have wholly unrealistic expectations of what a man is actually going to be able to do for them (blame Disney)

A lot of women on these sites expect a prince charming to turn up and not only become her boyfriend but also her bank, mechanic, handyman, electrician, plumber, landlord, agony aunt and pornstar

Most men on the sites are just looking for a quick bit of nookie and they will be happily on their way

See where the lines cross there?

Anyway in answer to your question yes they do play by the rules but unfortunately they have a very distorted version of what the rules actually are
 

phil2015

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Hi Guys

Thanks for the responses; I do agree that POF is full of women with issues

To answer your question Bingo-Player Im 31, and would really like to meet someone for more than a one night stand, potentially a relationship/nothing intense in the future

I am however divorced and have 2 children myself, which I acknowledge isnt the most attractive premise;

However, i do have my own house, am successful, fairly handsome, nicely build and not short of money - Which I have in my favour....

Not sure wether its my mindset, but having children myself I feel like I am automatically targetted/destined to meet single mommies......but Ill agree they do have lots of issues and POF is full of them

One must remember they are single and with child for a reason....From my experience, cheating, bad decisions, spend too much, daddy issues, want to be independant etc

So I do feel slightly stuck!


I was wondering, is POF the same in other areas of the world such as Europe, USA, Australia or is it more limited to the UK?
 

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Low quality women play it by their impulses, which is not dramatically different from the rest of them, so situation normal, all fvcked up.

I've strayed away from online dating for a few months now (only tried Tinder), but from what I remember seeing on there, girls were either rather obviously holding beta bucks tryouts, or unapologetically promoting themselves as full-fledged c0ck carousel material. Not sure I'd ever hold my breath in hopes of finding a "quality girl" on any sort of online dating site, however rare of an occurrence that may be. Good for racking up plates though.
 

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phil2015 said:
I was wondering, is POF the same in other areas of the world such as Europe, USA, Australia or is it more limited to the UK?
Yes Phil Pof it's pretty much the same in the US, bottom of the barrel. 4s, 5s, single mommy 6s, woman with few friends or social circles, they rarely get hit on IRL (RBF) so they turn to OLD.

Do a search oh here "pof", there are many many threads about it on here.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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