"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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difference between Ross Jeffries's basic SS course and Palo Alto?

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I'm curious what the difference is between Ross Jeffries's Basic Speed Seduction Home Study Course and his Palo Alto Hyper-Responsive Course. Which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The basic difference is that you don't need to used memorized patterns or stupid lines. Your target is more responsive since she's participating more. This is by the way his best work. I've had some success with that palo alto model. Worth watching.
 

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Neither. SS is creepy, much like RJ is.

Stop looking for shortcuts, and fix your inner game.

Once that is fixed, everything else will fall into place.

Forget the patterns, the canned routines, the gimmicks, the stories, "Peacocking" Palm Reading, "The Cube" and all that other crap.

Address your inner game issues. Become confident. Become a Man, the type of Man that women will naturally gravitate towards.

This coming from someone who has attended a RJ SS seminar, and has many other RJ products, including the BHSC and the Advanced Course, among others.
 

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Derek Flint said:
Neither. SS is creepy, much like RJ is.

Stop looking for shortcuts, and fix your inner game.

Once that is fixed, everything else will fall into place.

Forget the patterns, the canned routines, the gimmicks, the stories, "Peacocking" Palm Reading, "The Cube" and all that other crap.

Address your inner game issues. Become confident. Become a Man, the type of Man that women will naturally gravitate towards.

This coming from someone who has attended a RJ SS seminar, and has many other RJ products, including the BHSC and the Advanced Course, among others.
since i've joined sosuave, many members have advised to keep away from RJ's products. it looks promising.. definitely something to try out and see if it works
 
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