"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Did someone say "Judge a woman by her actions not her words"?

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Well get this....

Former girl I had oneitis for, she 32, kid, ex-meth user, father of her child a badboy crim (currently up on more charges).

Yes I know I know I know I know, what an idiot I was for developing oneitis for her.

I fvkced her once. She withdrew and I did all the wrong things from there......pushed pushed and she ran the fvck away. But maybe I did the right things because scaring her away was probably best for me in the long run.

Anyway - she told me one day that boyfriends don't last long with her - she was married then divorced by age 23...and she told me "you don't want to be one of my cast offs". Told me she is not looking for a boyfriend...yada yada yada.

Anyway - she gets a homestay in. I've seen him at the local pub. He is 21, and in her words "effeminate". I had a final falling out with my oneities...yes I know I dodged a bullet.

Anyway - I now find out she is in a relationship with the effeminate homestay boy.

I repeat I admit I was a total idiot developing oneitis for an ex-druggie, with a kid....but dang she is beautiful.

So - never a truer word spoken when a girl says she is not looking for a boyfriend at the moment it REALLY does mean she doesn't want YOU.

Puzzles me how she has gone from badboy to beta herb femme guy. Good luck to him, 21 years old and in a relationship with a 32 year old woman with a kid from the sperm of a convict.

And yes - what the hell was I thinking in the first place.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Zunder said:
Former girl I had oneitis for, she 32, kid, ex-meth user, father of her child a badboy crim (currently up on more charges).

Anyway - she told me one day that boyfriends don't last long with her - she was married then divorced by age 23...and she told me "you don't want to be one of my cast offs". Told me she is not looking for a boyfriend...yada yada yada.
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Always listen to their HISTORY. Especially with women like that. She will tell you about your fate in the first two or three conversations,

Problem is that in the first few weeks your brain is drained of blood.

BTW Zunder what is a " homestay"? We don't have those over here. A male Nanny ?
 
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jophil28 said:
Always listen to their HISTORY. Especially with women like that. She will tell you about your fate in the first two or three conversations,

Problem is that in the first few weeks your brain is drained of blood.

BTW Zunder what is a " homestay"? We don't have those over here. A male Nanny ?
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Homestay = a foreign student over here in NZ learning english.

I can't remember her first few words to me. But I remember one of her early texts "I'm nuts". She told me she was joking later...but this girl is BPD...can be so sickly sweet, and then turn into a biatch .
She was BPD and she was like a drug to me.

I know she was into me at the start...her doing all the contacting etc etc...asking me out yada yada....but after I fvcked I developed the oneitis, told her how beautiful she was, bought her gifts, said "sorry" for things I never had to be sorry about...all the things they teach you on SS not to do.

I was infatuated with her beauty (she is not the trailer trash crack user...comes form a well to do family, dresses well, etc etc) and infatuated by something I wanted (at the time) but couldn't have.

I will admit there is a small pang of jealousy, jsut a small one...but when I think of the whole situation I am the lucky one.

As I say I have seen the guy, skinny, not that good looking (not that a man can judge another man's looks) but he is by all accounts a lovely guy.
 
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You could've stopped right there. :rolleyes:
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YEs I know. But the beauty of a woman can be intoxicating - but yes I agree you are right.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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YEs I know. But the beauty of a woman can be intoxicating - but yes I agree you are right.
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That is why most beautiful woman are the LEAST suitable for an LTR . They have been stared at and fawned over since early adoloscence.
Why should she bother with her personal and character development when all her whims and her wishes are granted by a conga line of kissazz chumps.

You would be stunned if you knew how many beautiful women's education ended at high school graduation.
 
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The girl that borught me here had that bad. "oh I don't like him I don't know why I am talking to him (cue 4 months later) Yes we are dating but i really don't like him he sucks I hate him (cute 1 year later) yeah he proposed to me but I don't know whyI keep talking to him. She told me she wasn't looking for a BF when I was 18, goes to a party bam, relationship.


on the flip side, this girl named amber I used to date a while back, would call me every name in the book when I had somehting to do that did not include her, or when she knew i was out with someone else, she hated my guts. let me call her and say "open the door i'm outside" all you would get "okay here i come". no questions asked.
 
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Yeah, well live and learn. There's a reason why I put it as my sig.

Trying to decode what woman say is too difficult, so I (try to) just focus on their actions. Much simpler.

Required reading on the topic:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181826
 
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