Desire and Commitment

[jhonny9546]

In the 1800s and 1900s, satisfying a sexual desire often meant taking a physical risk, cheating in secret, with little chance of being caught. It required real-world "phisical" scenario, both to connect and have the opportunity.


In our century, it’s different. We can fulfill those same desires instantly, digitally: a text, a photo, a disappearing message. No real-world risk. No consequences. This shift has changed everything.


Modern society is saturated with both soft (social media) and explicit content (porn and adult social media).
Some even act as spaces to openly share fantasies, real sex lives, and cultural trends. You can see what women really want, and what’s becoming normal. Kinks like "hotwifing," "cuckqueaning," or couples exploring sex outside monogamy while staying together are gaining traction.

As we evolve, these trends challenge the our culture and, long-term, it’s becoming harder to ignore temptations, because they're driven from our desires.

Given this, even experienced seducers here admit: at some point, they craved fewer partners but a deeper, lasting connection. And that’s the point: connection. True, lasting connection is what we all seek. But in a world of endless desire, where pleasure is always one click away, staying connected like that, it's just not possible. I'm not talking either of "romantic" or "love".


So where is this heading? There are three paths people tend to take:
1) Those who choose a committed relationship, knowing it will be hard, there will be conflict, fading desire, and temptation, but they fight to preserve the connection.
2) Couples who recognize the same challenges, but choose to openly explore their desires together, redefining commitment on their own terms. (cuckold/cuckquean)
3) People who blindly follow old ideals, unaware of how much culture, tech, and opportunity have reshaped the game, until reality hits.

I used to be in group 3. Now I’m in group 1. But I still wonder:
What if your partner is everything you’ve ever wanted, yet modern culture still leads you both toward path 2?


I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, since as a Man, those who "control" the relationship, we have to manage those trends, and what issues they bring to our way of living. Where do you stand?

 

[The Duke]

In the 1800s and 1900s, satisfying a sexual desire often meant taking a physical risk, cheating in secret, with little chance of being caught. It required real-world "phisical" scenario, both to connect and have the opportunity.


In our century, it’s different. We can fulfill those same desires instantly, digitally: a text, a photo, a disappearing message. No real-world risk. No consequences. This shift has changed everything.


Modern society is saturated with both soft (social media) and explicit content (porn and adult social media).
Some even act as spaces to openly share fantasies, real sex lives, and cultural trends. You can see what women really want, and what’s becoming normal. Kinks like "hotwifing," "cuckqueaning," or couples exploring sex outside monogamy while staying together are gaining traction.

As we evolve, these trends challenge the our culture and, long-term, it’s becoming harder to ignore temptations, because they're driven from our desires.

Given this, even experienced seducers here admit: at some point, they craved fewer partners but a deeper, lasting connection. And that’s the point: connection. True, lasting connection is what we all seek. But in a world of endless desire, where pleasure is always one click away, staying connected like that, it's just not possible. I'm not talking either of "romantic" or "love".


So where is this heading? There are three paths people tend to take:
1) Those who choose a committed relationship, knowing it will be hard, there will be conflict, fading desire, and temptation, but they fight to preserve the connection.
2) Couples who recognize the same challenges, but choose to openly explore their desires together, redefining commitment on their own terms. (cuckold/cuckquean)
3) People who blindly follow old ideals, unaware of how much culture, tech, and opportunity have reshaped the game, until reality hits.

I used to be in group 3. Now I’m in group 1. But I still wonder:
What if your partner is everything you’ve ever wanted, yet modern culture still leads you both toward path 2?


I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, since as a Man, those who "control" the relationship, we have to manage those trends, and what issues they bring to our way of living. Where do you stand?

I can think of several trends that men have managed which have led us to the disarray we are in now.
-Birth Control
-No Fault Divorce
-Social Media
-Female Voting Rights
-Multiple sex partners for women is ok.
-Disregard for religion
-Virginity isn't valued.

I was once a member of group 3. I then went and fuhked lots of women in the wild. These days I prefer group 1, but I'm willing to shut it down and find another one if it ever stops working. Nothing stands the test of time like it once did. Longevity means little these days. Adapt or get left behind and be unhappy.

 

[BaronOfHair]

True, lasting connection is what we all seek

Believing that connection will last is a receipe for despair: Like everything else, connection is temporary

 

[Gamisch]

That's why we should ONLY deal with women with EXTREMELY high interest.

1. It makes you "getting used to being treated like a KING( instead of getting used to chase crumbs)
2. There is a threshold for deterioration. If IL 9 falls back to 7, okay..but if 7 falls back to 4/3 ,it's almost gone already..

3. Deal with women that are beneath you. That's the natural order . She WANTS to look up you/ br beneath you. If she has leverage over you due to finances ,looks or both..you're royally fecked by default

 

[Gamisch]

That's why we should ONLY deal with women with EXTREMELY high interest.

1. It makes you "getting used to being treated like a KING( instead of getting used to chase crumbs)
2. There is a threshold for deterioration. If IL 9 falls back to 7, okay..but if 7 falls back to 4/3 ,it's almost gone already..

3. Deal with women that are beneath you. That's the natural order . She WANTS to look up you/ br beneath you. If she has leverage over you due to finances ,looks or both..you're royally fecked by default

4.Like I said many times before: have a mission that is WAY bigger than just making a womam the most important thing in your life.

5. At some point you gotta apply all the knowledge you have..by now, you studied tye game enough to recognise EVERYTHING. Can't stay dumb forever.


6. Or 5.b
If she leaves after let's say two years of total submission, because there's a new bull( aka something you won't be able to change anymore) then you should shrug it off and move on.

As long as you're the prize it will be;
Next next next next next.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Gamisch,
"That's why we should ONLY deal with women with EXTREMELY high interest."....Yes you are right...Though Women with "extreme" interest you may well see as being beneath your metier...like tends to accept like...I have never been long without partners because I spread my net very wide,find my level then go a little below it,accepting a Girl who while lacking in some traditional aspects of beauty has an open mind,is intelligent with a nice body.