Demonstrating High Value...or being fake and exagerrating yourself??

[Ken785]

I know demonstarting high value is showing people your interesting or are accomplished in some way...for ex: You could have traveled the world, be the "main" guy in your group, etc...

The only problem im confiused with is people always say "sell yourself" to women...but where is the line when DHV and showing off?

I know a couple guys that "sell" themselves and say they know this famous person and that famous person, they've made millions before and always pay for everything when they go out with people and make them think they're rich (when they're really broke as fvck)....how much money they spend, what they have (materialistic things)

Where is the line when you are trying to DHV and when you're lying your as off like the guys i mentioned to get other peoples approval? I have found the guys i mentioned do that and for some reason get more respect from the others around them...it baffles me, I don;t like to brag about or show off what i have or fake like i have it that good when in reality i really don't, but by not doing that, people don't care for me much.

Should i start acting like the guys a mention and over exaggerate who I am and what i have now? I don't want to be fake but it seems to work for them...

 

[Effington]

I never really understood bragging about how much money you have, unless you are looking for a girl who will like you for your money. (Doesn't the DJ bible teach to spend as little on a girl as possible?) As for the comment about knowing celebrities, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing [as long as there's an interesting story associated with it]. I really do think that the people you hang out with are a reflection of yourself, so associating with influential people is a good thing. However, name dropping just for the sake of name dropping is pointless, and you'll come off as trying too hard to impress someone.

 

[Ken785]

I never really understood bragging about how much money you have, unless you are looking for a girl who will like you for your money. (Doesn't the DJ bible teach to spend as little on a girl as possible?) As for the comment about knowing celebrities, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing [as long as there's an interesting story associated with it]. I really do think that the people you hang out with are a reflection of yourself, so associating with influential people is a good thing. However, name dropping just for the sake of name dropping is pointless, and you'll come off as trying too hard to impress someone.

I know exactly what your saying....theres a difference and a fine line between demonstrating high value and trying too hard to impress someone.

For example: DHV: I have traveled the world. Trying too hard to impress: I used to make millions of dollars.... or I am rich and have 10 cars a 6 yachts...wanna hang out with me?

I don't want to try to impress someone...although it might work with certain types of girls who will fall for it so you can sleep with them....i try to be real.

I don't want to "sell myself" by trying to impress girls with showing off how much money or lying and saying i have this and that when thats really not me....but would you lie about all that just so you can sleep with a girl?

I wouldn't want people to like me or hang out with me just because i say i have this and that...i want them to like me for me...but the sad thing is, a lot of people in this world only like to associate or hang out with people who they think "benefit them" in some way...you get what im trying to say?

 

[splinterkb]

Bragging really just shows you're insecure, and you need to convince her that you're good enough. If you truly have something amazing that would totally impress a girl, then go for it.. but don't sit there and try to tell her why you're the sh*t... just show her that you are by being confident and knowing what you want, instead of sitting there talkin about yourself all night (which women f*cking hate).

It kinda sounds like you think you have nothing to offer compared to those liars.. which is a terrible attitude to start with. Being real with yourself and everyone will get you further than any concoction of lies can.

There you go.. theres 1 thing how people can benefit from you. You don't bull**** and try to look like something you're not.. you know who you are, what you want..and if anyone thinks that its not good enough for them, then they're honestly not worth your time. All that lying will get you is superficial b*tches who are probably terrible in bed.

Bottom line.. you sell yourself by not selling yourself.. if that makes sense.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

DHV is not about bragging . DHV is not only storytelling .

Palm reading is DHV . The Cube is DHV too .

Everything that shows that you are smart/funny/fun to be with person is DHV .

 

[KarmaSutra]

I know exactly what your saying....theres a difference and a fine line between demonstrating high value and trying too hard to impress someone.

For example: DHV: I have traveled the world. Trying too hard to impress: I used to make millions of dollars.... or I am rich and have 10 cars a 6 yachts...wanna hang out with me?

Boys with this mentality are screaming for someone to tell them they're important in their own lives. They don't have the mental aptitude to understand that it's not validation from people which makes us happy to be around, rather it's the idea that I am in love with myself and don't need nor will rely on someone's idea of who they think I should be.

I don't want to try to impress someone...although it might work with certain types of girls who will fall for it so you can sleep with them....i try to be real.

I don't want to "sell myself" by trying to impress girls with showing off how much money or lying and saying i have this and that when thats really not me....but would you lie about all that just so you can sleep with a girl?

I wouldn't want people to like me or hang out with me just because i say i have this and that...i want them to like me for me...but the sad thing is, a lot of people in this world only like to associate or hang out with people who they think "benefit them" in some way...you get what im trying to say?

Young Brother Ken is one of the brightest young minds we have here in SoSuave. He questions everything and doesn't follow any one path or belief system which is creating and molding his character.

Youngbrother Ken, One thing I learned when I was your age is that you cannot get a little bit pregnant. Either sh!t your pants, dive in and swim or flap your arms around until you drown. Love yourself and that radiance will attract people to your masculine vortex.

 

[ZenGodMod]

DHV has been badly misinterpreted.

Its not the value of your external content, rather the value of you internal content.

Of which not everyone will ever see from first impression, but they will have a sense of it.

There as Karma stated a glow or aura of it, however it is Value that when looked at can not be seen or come of as obvious.

Like the painting of the Mona Lisa, you rack your brain over it, but it'll intrigue you for the rest of your life.

 

[MrS]

How about actually having High Value?

 

[Interceptor]

DHVing is really about having the confidence to put yourSELF , your CHARACTER on the table.
Not being afraid to show WHO you are.
Instead of pandering and supplicating , and trying to be what you think someone else wants you to be.

If you went to Tibet, and she is interested in Tibet, you would tell her your story about the "time I went to Tibet."

It should not be about exaggerating , aggrandizing, or trying to 'show off'.
Never do that stuff.
DHV is not about what you OWN...it's about WHO you ARE.

 

[Señor Fingers]

I never liked this term... higher value than who.. her? Why would you be talking to someone who you thought was above or beneath you, or needed to be impressed?

F*ck value biatch.. this aint Walmart!

The most attractive thing you can demonstrate is your WAY of moving through life... it's you CHARACTER. A man with enough creativity and passion for living can turn the most mundane story in the world into something hilarious or riveting. I've had girls cracking up from stories of when I went to the grocery store, or I've made them think differently about life based on simple observations I made at the train station. These experiences alone had no value, but my perception of them did!

The road to one's character is paved by the quality of their thoughts and inevitable actions. Which is why you need to ask yourself who is running that fantastic machine you call your mind? Does it run on autopilot or do you have a confident grip on the steering wheel? Is it fueled by the validation of others or your own self-worth? Does it seek safety or new horizons?

All of these aspects tie into a package that is more attractive than your traveling stories, financial status, etc. These things are just icing on a cake that will crumble without anything substantial to hold it up.

Men of substance are not performing for anyone. They don't need to "demonstrate" anything. Their charm is as instant as it is enigmatic, and is the result of their own mental agility, emotional/social intelligence and zest for life which makes them so easy to love.

IOW, don't just demonstrate higher value... increase the quality of your thinkings/doings and BECOME a man of value.

 

[Ken785]

Anything you can do that conveys higher survival and replication value is a DHV. For example if you open a set, and you already have two girls with you, have demonstrated pre-selection, which is a DHV. When girls see that other girls have preselected you, they feel more attracted to you as a result.

If a woman discovers that you have a lot of money it is a DHV. She will find you more attractive, all other factors being the same. But if she perceives that you are trying to impress her with your money, she will then lose attraction. This is because only lower-value people try to impress --- such behavior is known as a demonstration of LOWER value, or DLV. if your trying to impress you must be of lower status and thus unattractive.

Exactly. Id rather people discover things about me without me having to tell them upfront to get them to like me. Sadly, I know a lot of guys that will lie or exaggerate what they have or who they know or what they've done to try and "woo" a girl, and sadly it works on them and they spread legs...