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Dear people, it is time to swallow the Red Pill...

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I dont know if someone has already posted something similar, but i have been on this website for months now and havent found anything, so if there is anything similar i apologize in advance, in any case read on.

Before you read, this article may not apply to you if you are a split image of Brad Pitt or if you are getting lots of dates with hot girls every day. This is for the average looking/ugly looking guy who occasionally gets dates to none at all and gets rejected by hot girls and thinks the reason why he gets rejected is because his confidence and ‘game’ is not good enough/

I couldn’t fit everything in this article, there is more to this subject then meets the eye, but for a starter just read on....


Many of us have been deceived by the pickup industry into thinking that looks do not matter when it comes to getting girls and that it is all about this unquantifiable thing called confidence.
Before you get your guns out, this is what the pickup artists say women are attracted to, not the Tao of the Don Juan , the DJs teach you how to acquire 'manly confidence' rather than the confidence any man can learn from a simple Youtube video which is simply the confidence of ‘approaching’ rather than confidence which comes from within and is expressed throughout (DJ confidence).

Of course, the trained DJ will say 'I already knew that', which is why i improve my dresscode, wear cologne and workout in the gym. You’ve given your physical attractiveness some importance whilst at the same time working on your manly confidence, which is what I have been doing.
So now you decide to go out and hit on some girls, and your inner game is so spot on you approach the hot chick like Brad Pitt, you've used your kino techniques, your eye contact, your smile, your positive body language to its maximum. But she still rejected you. Then you go home and wonder why? You think to yourself, oh man im still a happy guy but i need to work on my inner game, next time i will do better. IF you do that then you have been deceived. You've been deceived by the pickup industry to think your looks do not matter and it is all about this thing called confidence and game.

Why do they say looks dont matter? They say that so their clients , and people like you (and me) can use it as a coping strategy, defence mechanism and a delusional naivete so we dont give up and keep trying because in the end its all a numbers game, not a game of confidence.
So what is the real reason you get rejected? Your game was spot on, your cologne was spot on and so was your outfit, but why the hell did i get rejected? Maybe you need a new Burberry trench coat, you might get some girls once you buy that coat. Or maybe you need some Prada shoes, she will like you then. But guess what? you will still get rejected. WHY YOU ASK? The first thing a person notices about your is your physical appearance, which is what people judge you by. The same way you judge a girl by her looks, she is going to judge you by yours. Your confidence cant do **** if she doesnt like your looks, your neg hits, your amazing teasing techniques wont do **** if your face looks like **** in her opinion. The same way an ugly girl that has a funny personality and wears nice perfume and makeup will never make it in your bed, you wont make it into that HB9s bed either.

For many out there, this will be a hard pill to swallow.

Furthermore, if you have fallen in this trap like i have, you've been ignoring things girls say in your presence such as ' that guys cute', why? Because you thought you 'knew' looks didnt matter. You thought your confidence would attract her. Now dont get me wrong because without confidence you would never even have approached the girl so i would say there is a bout a 65-35 ratio between physical appearance and charm. So even if you look good, but your innergame and charm is ****, she will still **** you. Exactly the same way you would **** a HB9 that had a **** personality but big tits. Personality plays a role, but not as much as physical appearance does.
Which brings me to another important point.If confidence really is not the key to attraction, then why do women mention that they want a confident man? They SAY they want confidence all the time ! They always says they want a courageous man to approach them. But here is the thing, confidence is associated with good looks. You might have the same level of confidence as Brad Pitt when he approached a girl , but anyone will assume he has more confidence simply because of his looks. They want a good looking guy WITH confidence to approach them, be cute first THEN approach? Stupid girls right? Read on.
Compare an average/ugly guys face to a model looking guys face and ask yourself which guy looks like he has more confidence? What if i told you one of those 2 guys is very outgoing , charming and is seeing 2 women right now. Which guy would you choose to fit those criteria. The average/ugly guy or the good looking one>? Judge for yourself. Even though this may not be true, this is the reality. It is time to get out of your fantasy and start looking at what is real and what is not. People cant rate your confidence when they see you, hence why i described it as unquantifiable, a girl does not see a guy and say ‘oh omg look at that confidence’ , nah man, shes going to look at your face and judge you by that.

Ok this article or whatever you want to call it was not meant to bring your self confidence down to zero. I wanted to show you reality, get you out of that ‘mainstream fantasy’ that society has put out there and stop wasting your time fooling your brain into thinking looks do not matter(or only matter a little bit) and that it is mainly about this thing called ‘confidence’.
I don’t want to end this article on a bad note so I’m going to tell you what to do now you’ve swallowed the red pill.
Step 1 – Do not stop with what you’re doing, I know this may sound cliché but at least when you fail or get rejected you know the REAL reason rather than some bull**** some PUA website tells you. At least when you get rejected you’re not going to try and learn a new pickup line which might work next time but rather you know exactly why she rejected you.
Step 2 – If you haven’t already made changes to your daily habits etc you will make changes. You will start working out and follow a diet in order to get in shape. Why? Im going to assume your body fat percentage is above 12% if youre not working out , if so, you have some fat in your face which youre going to get rid of by getting that Body Fat percentage around 6 %or 7%, this will give you more definition in your face and a chiselled jaw line. (It is how Brad Pitt has his so defined). Youre also going to workout to get in shape, a man with a ripped body is like a girl with big tits, it is not essential but an amazing bonus.
]Now i can give you lots of more steps to take but i think i will end this article here and i want to see what to community thinks of this before i move on.
If you’re wondering where i got snippets of my information from then check out this video series someone has already posted on this forum BUT not explained. They simply posted a link to the Youtube video, i watched the 4 video series , realised its importance and decided to write about it.
Here : https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...MUpX5zvnQc90EbHzc062RVw&bvm=bv.79142246,d.d2s

Thats the first video, just click on the channel to watch the other 3.
Thanks for reading.
 

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This is very true. If your game, confidence just about anything is 100% spot on, but the girl just doesn't 'like' the way you look it just won't work.

It's the same the other way.
I have good looks, modelingwise, and I'm saying this to support this theory and not to boost my ego so please don't think I'm arrogant.

Because of my looks I'd notice alot of girls checking me out and eye contacting me, BUT i was such a beta that they would lose their interest after 5 min, only the dumb ones would stay interested in me.

Then I recently found this site and stopped putting women on a pedestal and i have one word, 3 actually: Holy **** results !!

I've been testing this the last weeks, girls checking me out, I LET them catch me checking them out so there's eye contact so they know i'm interested in their looks as well.

This works so good I've had HB8+'s come to me, yes to me!
This saturday i was on a prom in fullsuitmode.

Noticed HB8.5, which I've known from past high school but we've never talked or even smiled to each other, looking at me from 10 metres away. After i noticed this i assumed she was interested so I let her catch my eyes.

2 hours later I went looking for her and her friends, found her and positioned myself about 5 metres away from her. There were people from the organisation coming to us giving away gadgets and stuff with some candy to up the fun. I took some and after 5m HB8.5 came to me and asked me if I had any candy. => she's clearly interested.

If I didn't know about this site I would've acted all beta and fckd up but I didn't.
ME: No I don't have any, but I'll tell you what, if you find any and bring it to me, I'll dance with you and we'll go on a picture together.
She immediatly started asking her friends if they still had any and went searching. She didn't find any.
ME: That's to bad, we'll take a picture but I won't dance, I have my principles, no candy - no dancing.

Her face just went like wtf why doesn't he want to dance? there's 5 guys here that all tried dancing to me and sticked to me like flies and he's like I don't care? HUH?

I didn't give her any attention after because I didn't really care about her because I have other 'priorities' ;)

What I'm trying to say is, my good looks will get girls to be interested in me easier without doing anything just lookswise and looking confident but after that it's all up to your game, your looks will only save you with dumb ones.

AGAIN NOT TRYING TO BE ARROGANT JUST TRYING TO BACKUP THIS THEORY
 

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Looks get you 'in the door' with the woman.

Everything else about you either 'keeps you in the house' or gets you 'kicked to the curb'.
 

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logicallefty said:
Looks get you 'in the door' with the woman.

Everything else about you either 'keeps you in the house' or gets you 'kicked to the curb'.
Couldn't have said it better
 

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Mauser96 said:
I posted that exact link about a month ago. Very good videos

Yes, that is where i first found out about it, i watched the whole series then it dawned on me that looks are WAY more important than i thought they were. But i didnt think the issues were highlighted to such an extent that everyone would be able to appreciate this topic(the link, that is). I thought a written explanation would do more good than just simply posting a link.
 

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logicallefty said:
Looks get you 'in the door' with the woman.

Everything else about you either 'keeps you in the house' or gets you 'kicked to the curb'.

Very true.

Looks are like the head start, you know how you get a boost in Mario Kart at the beginning sometimes? thats what looks do, youre instantly ahead of the game, but the thats where your charming skills come in, especially conversation, this is how other players can catch up to you in the game even though you had a headstart, it is simply just not enough to get you to win.

After looks i reckon convo is the most important, not what you talk about, i don t really think that matters, its more about how you respond (what u say), this is where you either become an irresistible boss or another guy. You must respond the best way you can, in such a way it touches her mind, you must become irresistible. Words have power that u cant imagine. It happens all the time, you first judge them by the looks, then after the speech even if they were ugly, u love them because their words had an effect.

peace bros
 

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wow, after seeing this i'm not gonna waste anymore time. Gonna workout more and do as much as possible to step up in the looks department.

thanks for the VIDS OP!
 

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Starwolf said:
wow, after seeing this i'm not gonna waste anymore time. Gonna workout more and do as much as possible to step up in the looks department.

thanks for the VIDS OP!

Eyes are part of your looks.

Eye contact counts as part of your looks,

so you must improve it to best of your ability, and keep it there all the time, always have eye contact,also always make sure youre looking forward at eye level i.e don't be looking down, or at peoples chest or up in the sky. Keep it at eye level as much as youcan. also when youre on your phone, don't look all the way down, hold your phone up a little bit (about the height of your face).

People always say eye contact is important , but a lot of people have the tendency to underestimate it, because not only is it important in demonstrating higher levels of confidence , but also that your vibe is perceived as a 'with it ' vibe, i.e you know wtf youre talking about. Imagine someone talking to you about something and they kept their eye contact versus someone who was looking down or into space? you get the idea, check out Russel Brand in interviews, he always dominates the interviews, or any conversation he is in for that matter. Watch him in interviews and you will see how he knows his sht better than the interviewer and is always a couple of steps ahead.

speech and delivery of speech is also very important but that is another topic
Notice how these things come into play after physical appearance?

theres quite a lot more on this subject, if youre interested let me know.
 

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Looks are the single most important thing in attraction. Work on yourself first. There really is nothing you can do about your genes, but you can improve those things you can control. Get in shape, get involved in physical activity, martial arts is great because it comes with a philosophy of disciple and self-control. If you have an Xbox, or Play Station, put it away and spend the time you spend on that getting in shape. Get a style that fits you, clothes that fit, proper grooming. What I did after my divorce was took a picture of myself and ran in though http://celebrity.picadilo.com/ found my celebrity look-a-like (BTW it was Arron Eckhart, I know I won the genetic lottery) and copy their style. Why, because celebrities spend a lot of money on PR and stylists to define the best image for them. Use it, it’s much cheaper than hiring your own team. Lose weight…. The easiest thing to control, not only do you look better, but a guy that’s fat sends the message that he has no self-control.

Confidence is only important because a man that has no confidence can’t get anything done. If you don’t have confidence you won’t take risks. Pretending to be confident (which is what the PUA community teaches) doesn’t work. Rather than learning to create a confident illusion, it’s better to actually BUILD confidence. The way you do this is take yourself out of your comfort zone and do things until you are successful. Pretending to be confident actually does help you game eventually, because it gives you confidence to try… But you won’t actually become confident until you start having success. Eventually it does develop, but anyone right out of a PUA boot-camp is not ready for prime-time.

Self-control is important because without it, women do not believe that you are a real man. It’s really that simple.

Being a challenge to women, really only gets her to put some effort towards you. Anyone that expends effort is going to value the thing you are putting effort into. Women in this regard are no different than men. It also allows you to filter out women who really have no interest in you. If she is interested in you she’ll pursue… and start investing time, which builds value and attraction.
 

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Thanks for the vid, but what does LMS mean? In the beginning faceandLMS
 

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soden said:
Thanks for the vid, but what does LMS mean? In the beginning faceandLMS

Looks, Money and Status


those are the 3 things that will definitely get you the girl , even if youre ugly but have money and status u will still get any girl.
 

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^^ young girls. Past 30, women have been bruised/rode hard and generally deep down Hate men, unless that man can give them Status/Money. Young girls can have it all though, pick their piece from day-to-day hour-to-hour, week-to-week, month-to-month. I don't think anything lasts for a year with them, unless there's a certain tribal or religious element to the equation, something that binds them and keeps their eyes directed towards YOU.
 
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