"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Dealing with Possible **** Test?

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Ok, so I'm gaming this new girl at school and we've definitely been having fun so far. However, due to logistics, I haven't been able to escalate as much as I would like to and close because her friend is always around. However, that's not the problem.

Background on girl: very girly, bubbly and definitely in the good girl class.

We were talking yesterday and she randomly brought up I would like to live here and marry a white guy. Lolz. Her friend says the same thing and starts describing the features that appeals to them.

I just laugh along and after they finish move onto a different topic that does not involve that. However, my problem is this: wth just happened? Am I screwed? What would you guys do? I was completely unreactive to it, but inside I was dying since it would seem all my effort is going down the ****ters.

Btw, she still hangs out with me and on Sunday I'm really gonna amp up the escalation since she will be in a bathing suit.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Escalate already.

Women: their mouth say one thing, their punani says another.

Forget the friend, treat her like she doesn't exist.

Grab the girl you want, be touchy. If she stops you then move on, if she doesn't very soon her friend would feel like a third wheel and exit.

Stop doing group meetings, get her alone.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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@Stevo that's exactly what I'll be doing this sunday. The reason why she's a third wheel is due to her living situation. They live like an hour away from school together so they are always together. They will also be heading back home in a couple weeks so I've been wondering what I should do?

I'm planning to stay in Korea next summer so I was trying to figure out how should I approach this. Should I be aggressive now or should I be chill about it and make serious moves next summer? Or any other scenarios are much appreciated.

@Gman No they are not the same. You don't call a Mexican and an El Salvadorian the same. Neither would you call someone from France and someone from Germany the same. Heck, you wouldn't even say Canadians are the same as Americans.
 

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It doesn't matter if she lives 3 hours away, neither does her living situation mean sheet. Girls prove this everyday, they go out of their way, everyday. It's called investment.

Stop the group meeting, period.

Hit her up, let her know you want to take her out. Her, not her and her friend.

Then go from there but whatever you do, do not spend time with both girls together. You are gradually treading the LJBF territory, do a U-turn.

This is your time, next summer waits for no one. There'd be so many beeches for you to close next summer, you won't even have time to remember this one.
 

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How do you deal with a shvt test? You don't.

1) "Test" implies you are the student, and she the instructor;
2) "Shvt" implies she's giving you shvt;
3) "Deal" implies you're dealing with her shvt.

How do you deal with a girl challenging you? Well, whose world is it, yours or hers? Challenge her back harder, subdue her, and seize the frame:

Her: I would like to live here and marry a white guy.
You: I agree, only one problem: they wouldn't find you attractive.
Her: What? Azzhole
You: <Grin>
 

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@Stevo Thanks. I will do the U-turn.

@guru Wow. That's exactly what I need to do. Btw, your frame control is amazing!
 

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Unless you've had a LOT of experience controlling your body language then it is VERY likely the girl you are interested in picked up on the fact that you were uncomfortable with the white dudes comment. Women are uncanny about picking up on these things. If you are interested in her trust me there is a 95% chance she knows this. The longer you wait to make a move the less respect she has for you.

Grow some balls and go after her. The worst thing that will happen is she rejects you... you just walk away and find another. It's much better to try and get shot down then to linger around in limbo and watch while some other starts fvcking her.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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MoMoney96 said:
Background on girl: very girly, bubbly and definitely in the good girl class.

We were talking yesterday and she randomly brought up I would like to live here and marry a white guy. Lolz. Her friend says the same thing and starts describing the features that appeals to them.

I just laugh along and after they finish move onto a different topic that does not involve that. However, my problem is this: wth just happened? Am I screwed? What would you guys do? I was completely unreactive to it, but inside I was dying since it would seem all my effort is going down the ****ters.
Oh man bro, one comment from a girl you like makes your head spin that much? What if she said "I just had hot sex with the hottest guy in class?" What would you do, jump out the window?

You guys are too reactive to what women say. Your goal should be to push for sex as soon as possible with minimal effort, not react to her feelings at the time. Ask her out, make a move, and see what happens. If she rejects you, move on. If you don't ask her out and make a move, she is your emotional tampon or your sister.
 
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