Does anyone else dislike david deangelo as much as I do? I know you guys prbably don't know how much I do, and don't get me wrong, the 1st time I read "Double You Dating" i thought it was quite good. But apparently I'm still on his e-mail list, so every once in awhile I get these emails from him hawking his new product. And it's always the same thing! Today it's "The most important thing I learned" or something like that, in which he tells this LOOONG story about how he learned it but never says what it is that he learned, just "follow this link..." He just seems like he's taking advantage of guys who don't know any better, and while I shouldn't feel sorry for those types of men, I do. Sorry, rant over
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
D. Deangelo
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Daddy
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I think he's good . DYD was nice book , it tells u many things and it may help anyone . Personally i like him .
IMO. For AFC to DJ conversion being played is a necessary part of process..
It makes you get off your butt and pursue life with passion. It gets you MAD. When that happens, you've achieved something, and you are so ever closer to your goal..
A typical AFC however, would cry when played.. Such as, oh that sux, why you did it, you're bad.. And then continue doing the same old thing that will get him played again, and again, and again..
What do I mean by played? Being taken advantage of, anything that puts you as a beta.. When you put other people first to please them.. Instead of you being number one, always!
His stories serve a good purpose.. They make learning men get off their butts and do something new. Plus guy is making money.. He has an opportunity to make money there.. You shouldn't be hating on a player, because you don't want us calling you playa hater. There is no reason to hate the guy, anyone can do what he does too.. No reason to hate him..
You should see opportunities, and take advantage of them, get rich, get fat, invest into your family.. That's looking out for number one..
But if you are allowing to be taken advantage of yourself, providing sh!t for free, etc, etc.. You are not helping yourself, you are helping others, like a monk or a nun.. Well, if you're like that, then you're nothing but an AFC..
It makes you get off your butt and pursue life with passion. It gets you MAD. When that happens, you've achieved something, and you are so ever closer to your goal..
A typical AFC however, would cry when played.. Such as, oh that sux, why you did it, you're bad.. And then continue doing the same old thing that will get him played again, and again, and again..
What do I mean by played? Being taken advantage of, anything that puts you as a beta.. When you put other people first to please them.. Instead of you being number one, always!
His stories serve a good purpose.. They make learning men get off their butts and do something new. Plus guy is making money.. He has an opportunity to make money there.. You shouldn't be hating on a player, because you don't want us calling you playa hater. There is no reason to hate the guy, anyone can do what he does too.. No reason to hate him..
You should see opportunities, and take advantage of them, get rich, get fat, invest into your family.. That's looking out for number one..
But if you are allowing to be taken advantage of yourself, providing sh!t for free, etc, etc.. You are not helping yourself, you are helping others, like a monk or a nun.. Well, if you're like that, then you're nothing but an AFC..
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DYD is all you really need from him. Everything else he sells is the same thing re-packaged. It's like how Mattel sells the same Barbie doll every year, but with different clothes and accessories.
I clued into him being in it for the money when he released his Advanced Series soundtrack, then released the video for it afterwards. That's when I took myself off his mailing list.
I clued into him being in it for the money when he released his Advanced Series soundtrack, then released the video for it afterwards. That's when I took myself off his mailing list.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
You won't learn anything new from his other products but what I do with some of them is rewatch them until like he recommended, it gets in my subconscious. I'm pretty sure he has told you to review his product for the next 90 days thing, and it actually has worked for me with his "On Being A Man" program.
Though yeah, he's a good marketer, rehashing his products because he knows people will buy them. If it weren't for Mystery being so popular because of Style and his show, David D. would practically have a monopoly in the seduction business.
Though yeah, he's a good marketer, rehashing his products because he knows people will buy them. If it weren't for Mystery being so popular because of Style and his show, David D. would practically have a monopoly in the seduction business.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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I thought DYD was scarcely informative and a boring read. I think those news letters are annoying and I asked him to remove me from the list but he didnt.
My quote for Double D is "what good is it to double your dating if you're currently dating zero? 0 times 2 = 0"
Read my book for free if you want. At least it's entertaining, and I have no newsletter
My quote for Double D is "what good is it to double your dating if you're currently dating zero? 0 times 2 = 0"
Read my book for free if you want. At least it's entertaining, and I have no newsletter
I think you can take a few things from every DJ/PUA out there. Use the info and develop your own style. Sort of a Bruce Lee adaptation theory where you take certain parts from different martial arts practices and make it your own.
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Now you're talking Dong Fu, Pad Juanematsuda said:
I'll say my two cents about David D - he's a marketing genius. A few of his books are great to learn the basic concepts of picking up women, but after that, the rest of his material is bull. (This includes his interviews, his videos, everything else! And yes, I have viewed pretty much all of his material, so I am in a good position to state this. Have you heard his voice? In my view, he comes off as a geek! The DJ words in some of his e-books does NOT match him in person. That's just my opinion though.
And yes, he truly does take advantage of guys who are so desperate in picking up women, and once you are on his mailing list, he continually sends you email after email about his new products - it's all business for him, so I give him credit for being an entrepreneur and realizing that there is a good market for guys who want to pick up girls, that's all.
Oh yes, I have been on his mailing list (Obviously on an email account I don't use) and from the 100's of emails I have gotten from him, there was only ONE email which I remember that did not advertise his other products.
And yes, he truly does take advantage of guys who are so desperate in picking up women, and once you are on his mailing list, he continually sends you email after email about his new products - it's all business for him, so I give him credit for being an entrepreneur and realizing that there is a good market for guys who want to pick up girls, that's all.
Oh yes, I have been on his mailing list (Obviously on an email account I don't use) and from the 100's of emails I have gotten from him, there was only ONE email which I remember that did not advertise his other products.
War Against Betaism
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I think I may be the only one who was able to successfully unsubscribe to his mailing list, he has never sent me an email since.
I clearly remember one of his emails about a seminar which was completely unrelated to seduction. It was about marketing and business.
I clearly remember one of his emails about a seminar which was completely unrelated to seduction. It was about marketing and business.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
David Deangelo is your Kevin Trudeau of Infomercials. He's your typical snakes oil salesman.
I also ended up on his email list, and every week it's "New Secret to Triggering Attraction." C'mon, how many secrets are there.
Its getting pretty annoying, I don't bother reading them anymore.
Mind you, David D is also a very successful businessman. He has the exact same books on having a successful business and selling techniques as his seduction books! lol. If that doesn't give it away I don't know what does.
Some of his material is pretty funny, but it's a far cry from being a DJ. I've used some of his corny lines, and you get a weird reaction at best. And PLEASE don't follow some of his SEX SECRETS! Look at the guy, he's no Casanova, some of the sh!t he suggests will never work, Trust me, I regrettably did it.
I also ended up on his email list, and every week it's "New Secret to Triggering Attraction." C'mon, how many secrets are there.
Its getting pretty annoying, I don't bother reading them anymore.
Mind you, David D is also a very successful businessman. He has the exact same books on having a successful business and selling techniques as his seduction books! lol. If that doesn't give it away I don't know what does.
Some of his material is pretty funny, but it's a far cry from being a DJ. I've used some of his corny lines, and you get a weird reaction at best. And PLEASE don't follow some of his SEX SECRETS! Look at the guy, he's no Casanova, some of the sh!t he suggests will never work, Trust me, I regrettably did it.
I think of him as snake oil salesman, at best. I don’t know how I ever got on his mailing list but after twice trying to get myself off of his email list and once him sending me an email that said if I didn’t respond he would take me off, I still get his crap regularly. I’ve just marked it as spam and now the spam filter blocks it so I don’t have to deal with it.
I think he is more of a con artist than anything, with most of his advice ranging form common sense things to crap. I’m sure if he had to defend his advice on a forum such as here, he would not be able to defend everything that he says.
I think he is more of a con artist than anything, with most of his advice ranging form common sense things to crap. I’m sure if he had to defend his advice on a forum such as here, he would not be able to defend everything that he says.
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Wow, kudos to you. I am reading some intelligent posts on here today. I will one up what you just typed. ALL the "gurus" are snake oil salesman. They pimp their products like no other. If their product was really so good would they have to spam you? They feed off of the insecurities of the normal American male in 2007. They never mention how it is hopeless to find a pretty girl in America who is has class, charm, and no attitude.potato said:
Gangster Of Love
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A lot of his "common sense" was not "common sense" 4-5 years ago, before some of his stuff was regurtitated here and by several other gurus.
You are getting conned everytime you watched tv and you sit and watch or happen to listen to a tv commercial. If beer was that good, woudl it need to be advertised? If ANYTHING was that good, would anything at all need to be advertised? Get over it.
If you are getting spamed, go get yourself removed. If you are getting spamed, it is because you signed on to his letters. Get over it.
Why don't you do a search, and go post on one of hundreds of threads about this very same topic? Just sayin'.
You are getting conned everytime you watched tv and you sit and watch or happen to listen to a tv commercial. If beer was that good, woudl it need to be advertised? If ANYTHING was that good, would anything at all need to be advertised? Get over it.
If you are getting spamed, go get yourself removed. If you are getting spamed, it is because you signed on to his letters. Get over it.
Why don't you do a search, and go post on one of hundreds of threads about this very same topic? Just sayin'.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
My Name is Nobody
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I still owe David D the money the credit card I bought DYD with expired. He finally gave up asking me for a new card #.
Wether you like it or not, you don't have to pay for anything anymore. Want a now game or some music? Download it. Loose weght? Learn about healthy nutritin and exersize. But people still send money on weightlossproducts anyways.
Why diss only him? Why not Juggler, neil strauss, mystery, badboy, herbal, real social dynamics, hypnotica and the countless thers who are following in David Deangelos footsteps. DavidD was the pioneer in that particular field. Being the first to market a product is allways hard since it's new and it might not sell. He made way for all thse other dating coaches cause it became mainstream.
Like it or not, buissness is all about solving other peoples problem for a fee. And the more value you offer, the more people will buy your products. His company makes 20 million a year in sales. He has my respect. He doesn't do anything special in marketing that other people are not. It's up to you if you want to buy. If you want to hate, hate on junkfood and softdrink companies.
Why diss only him? Why not Juggler, neil strauss, mystery, badboy, herbal, real social dynamics, hypnotica and the countless thers who are following in David Deangelos footsteps. DavidD was the pioneer in that particular field. Being the first to market a product is allways hard since it's new and it might not sell. He made way for all thse other dating coaches cause it became mainstream.
Like it or not, buissness is all about solving other peoples problem for a fee. And the more value you offer, the more people will buy your products. His company makes 20 million a year in sales. He has my respect. He doesn't do anything special in marketing that other people are not. It's up to you if you want to buy. If you want to hate, hate on junkfood and softdrink companies.
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I'm thinking of buying into DYD, however, not at this time.
I see he has money-back guarantees so I may test a few products out, but, hey, nothing seems to be working for me so it's usually a free ride.
My take on anything is to try it out and see if I connect with it, if it provides practical cognitive mapping, and if it can sort of motivate me to do something, otherwise, it doesn't work. What may work for Joe may not work for Smith, etc....
I see he has money-back guarantees so I may test a few products out, but, hey, nothing seems to be working for me so it's usually a free ride.
My take on anything is to try it out and see if I connect with it, if it provides practical cognitive mapping, and if it can sort of motivate me to do something, otherwise, it doesn't work. What may work for Joe may not work for Smith, etc....
Bonhomme
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DYD did more damage to my "game" than good... at least until I ditched the counterproductive stuff in it (trying to be C+F, playing too hard to get, etc.).