Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Corey Wayne on Strippers

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I've been listening to Coach Corey Wayne a lot. Other than the Art of Seduction audio books his stuff is the best on youtube IMO.

His main points are:

"Feminine energy is about opening up to receive love".
"Scientific evidence shows that women like men whose feelings are unclear".
"Hang out, have fun, hook up".
"Only text to set up dates".
"Wait a week and set up an opportunity for sex to happen".
"You talked her out of liking you".

He really gets it.

Here is what he says on strippers. "I've dated strippers. Some of them are great girls. Some of them are the most f*cked up people you'll meet in your life. Sometimes there is chemistry".

 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've been listening to Coach Corey Wayne a lot. Other than the Art of Seduction audio books his stuff is the best on youtube IMO.

His main points are:

"Feminine energy is about opening up to receive love".
"Scientific evidence shows that women like men whose feelings are unclear".
"Hang out, have fun, hook up".
"Only text to set up dates".
"Wait a week and set up an opportunity for sex to happen".
"You talked her out of liking you".

He really gets it.

Here is what he says on strippers. "I've dated strippers. Some of them are great girls. Some of them are the most f*cked up people you'll meet in your life. Sometimes there is chemistry".


What's your opinion of them? What have been your experiences? How do you go about escalating from the initial 'transaction' phase, so to speak? You seem to have a penchant for them, so I'm genuinely interested....
 

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What's your opinion of them? What have been your experiences? How do you go about escalating from the initial 'transaction' phase, so to speak? You seem to have a penchant for them, so I'm genuinely interested....
I've been in that environment 20+ years. I've dated quite a few. You get the best deal with them when you don't make money the motivation. It will be like a "normal" gf who might do those things to get money on the side.

Strippers always have orbitters and other guys, they all might not be hitting... But she may have a main c0ck and a few that get a piece once every blue moon.

In my opinion they are terrible if they have been in that environment a couple years, say 2-3, they are basically a crime magnet.

Some people come in there and leave after a few months, like a "girls gone wild", these are normal females.

Ones who have been in there for a long time are heavy users of men. They will have you robbed.

But as Big Neil attests. Many "Hot Girls" run stripper game in their real life, they aren't strippers in a club, but may as well be, because the rulesets and shennagans are the same.

I dated a few bartenders out of there. They are usually nicer than the strippers, but bodies usually aren't as hot. But the one bartender in there I remember was very feminine and took good care of me.
 
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A stripper is a prostitute. Most of them have sex for money but even the normal course of business is a total disqualifier.

I know one former Hooters girl who turned out to literally be the best millennial woman I've ever met...so maybe have an open mind there.
A lot of them don't even have to have sex. They will propose the deal and if you give them the money first they can cut out on you and take your money.

But yeah they are crooks.

Which city was your hooters girl from?
 

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Interesting. I've certainly had some good times in strip bars with some really gorgeous women; clearly in some places, if you're willing to pay, you basically get what you want. I guess if you can find a decent one, it's probably not unlike dating many other women, at least in the short term.

Barmaids are almost too easy; bit of chat, buy them a drink for after work, leave your number. They always call the next day.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What's your opinion of them? What have been your experiences? How do you go about escalating from the initial 'transaction' phase, so to speak? You seem to have a penchant for them, so I'm genuinely interested....
I love strippers. They are the most beautiful, most volatile, craziest and hardest to please women on Earth (next to boat b!tches who I've never got to talk to). If you can keep a girl that young, that beautiful, that wild, and that sought after happy you know you're doing something right. If they send you love letters months after you leave the state, you know you were one of the best men they met. If you don't get jealous of her doing the unspeakable for cash, what woman could ever get to you? They make us tempered glass (and they are themselves tempered - that is, they don't shatter from extreme temperature changes of hot and cold). More importantly, once you learn how to talk to them, you will be just as smooth with equally hot non-strippers. You learn what works. You shy away from what made them cringe. They almost always tell you your good points. Why? It comes off as more natural and they are trying to make you feel good about yourself. Some are love goddesses that can heal you with a hug (I realized that is what my girl does to avoid putting out). You do more of what made them swoon. Once they like you they tend to stay with you for 1+ years because they chose you out of 10,000 men. Finally, strippers allow you to get out of a slump the easy way - with cash. The key is to become a master of body language so you can outsmart them. They are pretending to like you. You must find the ones who really do like you, and they will be rare.
 

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I have never met a "normal" stripper. Ever. And I have known many of them, and "dated" a few of them over the years. Not a normal girl in the bunch.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How exactly do you game strippers? serious question
How to game strippers?

  • Catch their eye. They have to remember who you are out of hundreds of people. That means you need to be the best dressed or tallest or best looking or most successful guy in the room.
  • Be intelligent (most of them are immune to physical cues).
  • Get lots of strippers at the club to think you are hot. They will only like guys they can brag to their friends about.
  • Choose only ones you could fall in love with (it won't be worth the effort otherwise, and you won't hold her).
  • Don't offer to pay any girls at the club for sex obviously (I imagine they will tell everyone what you offered though I've never done this).
  • Spend as little time at the club with them as possible (if you are dating them, less than 5% of your time if any should be at the club).
  • The first 1 or 2 times you sit with her, don't ask them to dance but throw her $60 - $100 to sit and talk to you.
  • Get their number the first time you speak with them (or it's pretty much over - love at first sight is the rule).
  • Never take them to VIP (or she will associate you with creepy guys who take her there).
  • Romance her with text messages. From the first message be romantic. If she doesn't like it, drop her. She should say things like "I miss you, my love".
  • (If necessary) offer to pay them one night's average pay to take weekend night off work and give them the time of their life and don't expect anything in return (but do kiss her goodnight). Ideally you will hire them for a legitimate freelance job as a model or for marketing under your business. So she will need to be classy.
  • When you are together, make sure she considers it a date.
  • If you have sex with her, make her have an orgasm.
  • Remain generous, but tell her you aren't going to pay her every time (the moment of truth for those who played you that far).
  • Be immune to her random fluctuations.
 

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Catch their eye. They have to remember who you are out of hundreds of people. That means you need to be the best dressed or tallest or best looking or most successful guy in the room.
Be taller, guys :up:

  • The first 1 or 2 times you sit with her, don't ask them to dance but throw her $60 - $100 to sit and talk to you.
  • Get their number the first time you speak with them
I'm just an observer here (I would never date a stripper. Maybe I'm selfish, but I don't like to share). But this is an interesting one-two punch. If she doesn't cough up her number, she can forget about any more "sit and talk" money.
 
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