Funny thing happened to me yesterday, you know I have always felt I was bad at conversations but yesterday having two conversations with two different girls I relise I have my best fun conversations with the friendly reponsive girls these girls make me relax the other non reponsive cold or plain girls I cling on to topics my transations are never smooth, there is always pauses after ever question or odd statement I throw in I feel like a try hard with this girls. This is a problem as allot of the times I haven't got the engergy to warm up this cold or plain girls have anyone got any suggestion should I just state some direct interest in these girls instead of attempting to have a conversation which becomes into a boring painful question and answer session.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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It takes two to make a conversation. If you're struggling to make conversation by yourself and the ***** isn't interested and only responds with one-word answers, that's not conversation.
You felt a better conversationalist because the girls added their fair share to the conv.
Think about your conversation with these girls and figure out what worked and why it worked differently. Figure out whether you talked to these girls differently than the others, or if you talked like you always do, but the girls were responsive this time.
You felt a better conversationalist because the girls added their fair share to the conv.
Think about your conversation with these girls and figure out what worked and why it worked differently. Figure out whether you talked to these girls differently than the others, or if you talked like you always do, but the girls were responsive this time.
Randallpink83
Master Don Juan
yeah I eject during cold-boring conversations where im doing all the talking and you can just see they wished you would walk away... lol.
I need to plow through this crap better... Some girls just no matter what are not going to be into you, and they wont be talkative and friendly.. they will go cold and distant hoping you get the hint.
But I always feel like a chump when I eject even though I feel it was socially the most intelligent thing to do....
However I'm just starting to love the whole "Make the Ho say No" motto... Cause I don't want to feel like a chump, I don't care if I'm bothering her. She is going to have to tell me to leave or blow me off or else I'm going to view it as an IOI and keep trying to esculate. haha.
I need to plow through this crap better... Some girls just no matter what are not going to be into you, and they wont be talkative and friendly.. they will go cold and distant hoping you get the hint.
But I always feel like a chump when I eject even though I feel it was socially the most intelligent thing to do....
However I'm just starting to love the whole "Make the Ho say No" motto... Cause I don't want to feel like a chump, I don't care if I'm bothering her. She is going to have to tell me to leave or blow me off or else I'm going to view it as an IOI and keep trying to esculate. haha.
Snow Plowman
Master Don Juan
your being reactive to the chicks response. If it doesn't go good then you start reacting try to see how you can get that response that the friendlier girls give.
If your just starting out then its best to eject, but if you've been at it hardcore for about a month or two, it would be best to stick in the set until they walk off.
Another reason this sometimes happens is because the dudes expect the chick to talk and all of that right off the bat.
Be proactive, lead the conversation use illusionary input to make it seem like she is giving something in the conversation. Talk, Talk,Talk, Talk. My general rule is to keep talking for 10-30 mins (Calibrate) and just keep conveying your personality.
Ejecting from these sets and saying its boring sets is basically the guy trying to run away from a challenge and want to get only the easy sets. At the end of the day though its the guys lost because he will never be able to get women who act like that at the start. Once you get passed all of that the chick drops all of that and you get to actually have fun.
My general rule is that the set is boring because YOU made it boring. If a different guy was to go in there he could make it fun and then the previous guy is standing there wondering WTF that set was boring before but now it seems like the coolest chicks in the venue. It's because of the guy who went in, he brought that out of them eventually.
When I game personally the girl doesn't really have to say much because I will do things to get her talking. Later on in the interaction I'd kind of just sit there and build up the tension and make her feel the social pressure so she can sit there trying to think of something to say to restart the conversation. This is when it kind of goes about 50/50.
If your just starting out then its best to eject, but if you've been at it hardcore for about a month or two, it would be best to stick in the set until they walk off.
Another reason this sometimes happens is because the dudes expect the chick to talk and all of that right off the bat.
Be proactive, lead the conversation use illusionary input to make it seem like she is giving something in the conversation. Talk, Talk,Talk, Talk. My general rule is to keep talking for 10-30 mins (Calibrate) and just keep conveying your personality.
Ejecting from these sets and saying its boring sets is basically the guy trying to run away from a challenge and want to get only the easy sets. At the end of the day though its the guys lost because he will never be able to get women who act like that at the start. Once you get passed all of that the chick drops all of that and you get to actually have fun.
My general rule is that the set is boring because YOU made it boring. If a different guy was to go in there he could make it fun and then the previous guy is standing there wondering WTF that set was boring before but now it seems like the coolest chicks in the venue. It's because of the guy who went in, he brought that out of them eventually.
When I game personally the girl doesn't really have to say much because I will do things to get her talking. Later on in the interaction I'd kind of just sit there and build up the tension and make her feel the social pressure so she can sit there trying to think of something to say to restart the conversation. This is when it kind of goes about 50/50.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You're realizing that you don't have to engage every girl just because she's female. Why not focus on the ones who are friendly, outgoing and communicative instead of those who who are just plain surly?Gammergq said:Funny thing happened to me yesterday, you know I have always felt I was bad at conversations but yesterday having two conversations with two different girls I relise I have my best fun conversations with the friendly reponsive girls these girls make me relax the other non reponsive cold or plain girls I cling on to topics my transations are never smooth, there is always pauses after ever question or odd statement I throw in I feel like a try hard with this girls. This is a problem as allot of the times I haven't got the engergy to warm up this cold or plain girls have anyone got any suggestion should I just state some direct interest in these girls instead of attempting to have a conversation which becomes into a boring painful question and answer session.
If your just starting out then its best to eject said:I mean for me I actually think that if the girl doesn't have any interest at all..she will let conversation die to let you fall flat on your face....
I mean sometimes is how your mentally prepared for a challenge...sometimes doesn't matter if you have the greatest comunication tecniques... if Im not having a great time and have a great attitude towards loosing the set...theirs no point of me to aproach because ....A cold aproach takes balls and the thing with cold aproaches is that you don't know what your getting in to...Everyone has a different personality...I mean theirs a chance the girl could be a great conversationalist an emo girl a man hater....You should always try to be at a stronger confident level than the girl..
And guys is not bad to show interest in a girl...Like juggler ones said not showing interest is "like havin a million dollars in a bank"and not been able to spend it....and then he says whats the point of having a million dollars if you can't spend