Contradictory Seduction

[Sammo]

Stop focusing on the girl, focus on your life, become the prize! Is what we repeatedly here, time after time, we are bombarded with requests to focus on something else. So what's the point of this board? If you honestly, 100% stopped focusing on girls and started living your passions, found true happiness, then you would have no reason to be here.

So that leaves us with an interesting question. What the **** are you still doing here?

Your still waiting for the answer, the one little bit of advice, the long awaited 'magic pill'. Deep within yourself, you know its not coming, I know its not coming, we all know its not coming.... yet we still come. Day after day we come, waiting.

Noone is REALLY happy with themselves because they keep depending on the oppisite sex to define themselves. If they havent had sex in the last few months they feel 'ugly, unwanted and socially retarded'. Now dont just read this and say "thats not me". Look within yourself and actaully SEE THE TRUTH! That is you! You are pathetic! Until you see the reality of the situation you have no power to control it!

STOP LETTING THE OPPSISITE SEX DIFINE YOU!

"Okay it's done, now what?"

Its NOT DONE! That kind of thing isn't a decision. It has been built up over years of ****ed up social conditioning. Movies, TV, video games, education, all that **** has ****ED YOU UP! Realise the truth, realise that you are a mess.

Once you 100% understand that society has ****ed you in the ass then you can start to change it. Make the decision now that you have ****ed up.

Realise that everything you do has been an attempt to improve the way people percieve you.

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Now i have calmed down, what can you do about it. How can you stop validating your self through the oppisite sex and other peoples oppinions?

Step number 1 is to **** off.

As i said before, stop coming here. Dont go to other message boards.

Another thing, stop watching TV, its for loosers. Is your life so boring that you have to watch someone elses?

Stop all that ****. It's only digging yourself a deeper hole.

FOCUS on your LIFE. Don't just go "okay i will start focusing on my life now, so i wont call that girl for 3 days because "im busy"" because thats what we call fake.

Actually do it. LITERALLY forget about girls and start focusing on having a good time in life and doing the things you want to do.

I dont want to see any of you for the next month. Don't just reply and say 'good post' but make no effort to act on it. If i catch anyone doing that im going to give them a mouthfull.

Go on, take that weight of your shoulders. See how light you feel and how simple life is once you simply stop caring about what people think of you. Now you have all the time in the world to do exactly what you want to do, so why not go and do it. Have fun

Forget about getting girls and you will get more. One day when you actually want to improve your skills with girls because you want to ENJOY the girls not BE COOL. Then ill see ya then.

Until that day, farewell..

 

[MetalFortress]

....oooookay. Why don't you take your own advice, and leave SS, instead of making some wannabe-big thread once a month urging everyone else to?

"Movies, TV, video games, education, all that **** has ****ED YOU UP!" Education, too? Did you happen to start a rebellion in basic English class? If you are going to try to sound like some great board-philosopher, you might as well use proper spelling and grammer. "Looser"? "Mouthfull"?

Leave the board-philosopher work to Pook and the other masters.

 

[InsidiousNstinct]

Sammo I think your points are some what correct. I think you can leave here (just as I have before) What I learned was not to use the site as a "crutch." Just take the advice as ADVICE. I think we all get wrapped up in girls (considering the number of people that are registered on the forum)

Somethings in our life we should throw away. Such as bad eating habits, not excersieing, etc. But I don't think throwing out your television will solve any problems. Neither will throwing your computer away. Those things don't keep you from doing what YOU need to do. YOU keep you from doing what you need to do. (thats a lot of yous hehehehe)

So I think that we need to put THINGS in order. If you watch to much television you don't throw it out the window. You put television overhere for awhile and focus on what needs to be done. I truly believe what seperates the greats from the not so greats is that they have their life in ORDER.

On the topic of getting girls I believe the reason a lot of us are not happy is because we DONT TRY. I bet half the members of this site could get decent girls if we just tried more. I mean we set back in front of our computer screens and say to ourselves "oh my gah how did so andso do that? I could NEVER do something like that. See...you already defeated yourself before you even begin. What you did was you just installed a new belief in your mind that you cannot seduce a girl, and you know what your mind says? "You're right" because your mind doesnt know any better. It just listens to whatever you tell it.

Secondly, I think we are just to d*amn self centered. "Oh I want this girl, shes so hot , etc. However, we never think of what SHE might be wanting. I think we would see a lot of improvement in our lives concerning women if we would just take the spotlight off of us and put it on them. I'm not talking about worshiping, im talking about thinking of what SHE might need. Instead of thinking "wow Id like to get a peice of that a$$"...and don't even tell me you don't think that. Instead why not think, "hmmm...I wonder what her dreams are? I wonder how I could help her achieve something in her life?" I mean really guys shes a human being too underneath what little clothes she has on. I'm nto saying focus all your energies on the girl but why not be willing to add a little fun to her life instead of the other way around.

On having other people giving you credit and looking for acceptance. That's human. I do, however, think that sometimes it gets out of control. Such as doing things for others JUST so they like you. Not everyone is going to like you.....sad but true.

I was having a convo with Matrix the other night aka Antichrist_Star. He said something that really stuck at me. "Man your just a ginuwine nice person. And as sad it may sound nice guys do finish behind." I thought about it and he was abosutly right. Don't be the nice guy goign around looking to help other people's problems or looking for valadation. Just be there to lend a helping hand. Because what happens is if people know you'll help them etc, then they will USE you. (more on this later)

Sammo I do admire you ( flame me if you must) You want to live the best life you can. And I have to admire you for that. I don't think our lives will ever be perfect. Because if they were perfect we would have nothing to work at. It goes back to having things put in order and giving a continuious effort to keep improving.

I remember hearing Anthony Robbins say something that I thought was profound..."The only reason you don't have what you want is because of the lie you've made up of why you can't have it." Or something to that effect.

Just my two cents on the topic...

 

[the pokemaster]

I came to this forum trying to get rid of a problem.

Girls were a problem for me until i came to this site.

When you have a problem you focus on the problem trying to solve it.

Everyone wants a partner, everyone wants sex.

Whatever reason you came to find this site and become a part of this forum, you will all soon reach a point of SELF REALISATION.

ie. if u came to this site because you couldn't seem to get girls.

Once you get girls and are confident with getting them you move on.

You REALISE that life isn't only about girls. And let yourself appreciate other things in life. Whether it be hobbies or whatever.

You REALISE that you don't need girls thus making you even more desirable!

Unfortunately most the people on this forum have not reached that point of SELF REALISATION! Therefore you shouldn't be telling people to leave the site. The guy who posted this site may feel he is ahead of everyone else. Everyone else needs to catch up with him. Dont be self centred.

~Elti Boi
One love

 

[oakraiderz2]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
....oooookay. Why don't you take your own advice, and leave SS, instead of making some wannabe-big thread once a month urging everyone else to?

"Movies, TV, video games, education, all that **** has ****ED YOU UP!" Education, too? Did you happen to start a rebellion in basic English class? If you are going to try to sound like some great board-philosopher, you might as well use proper spelling and grammer. "Looser"? "Mouthfull"?

Leave the board-philosopher work to Pook and the other masters.

You make a good point and im going to have to agree with what you said. Sammo, why is being busy all the time sooo important?? Making yourself busy so you dont call a girl if fuggin gay. Everything you mentioned you probably take part in yourself...THEREFORE...dont be hypocritical (sp?). Go back and read your post and try to understand some of the stuff you said.

Realise that everything you do has been an attempt to improve the way people percieve you.

Is that so?? Playing xbox, sleeping and getting drunk is to make people like me?? Interesting...

Realise the truth, realise that you are a mess.

Correct I'm a mess, youre a mess, everyone in the world is f*cked up, good call.

 

[Carnegie]

I know where your coming from Sammo. You live by the forum, you die by the forum. Sosusave only shows you the way, you must pave your own path.

 

[Pex]

Sammo, I seriously think you subconsciously mean to write these types of posts to yourself.

 

[Sammo]

Believe it or not, i prefer these kind pf responses then the ones im used to.

Originally posted by MetalFortress
....oooookay. Why don't you take your own advice, and leave SS, instead of making some wannabe-big thread once a month urging everyone else to?

"Movies, TV, video games, education, all that **** has ****ED YOU UP!" Education, too? Did you happen to start a rebellion in basic English class? If you are going to try to sound like some great board-philosopher, you might as well use proper spelling and grammer. "Looser"? "Mouthfull"?

Leave the board-philosopher work to Pook and the other masters.

At the end of my post look how it says "One day when you actually want to improve your skills with girls because you want to ENJOY the girls not BE COOL." then come back and focus on the problem, I have made that transition and am all the better for it. No, it was not always like that and it DID take a long vacation from the board.

Sorry for not considering spelling when posting on an internet web board. I didnt think it was that important. Education itself hasn't done this to us it is the general education system. How we are taught, to listen, be parrots, etc.

"Leave the board-philosopher work to Pook and the other masters." Maybe this kind of thinking is a result of the education system as well? Listen to the teacher and never think for yourself.

Originally posted by InsidiousInstinct
Sammo I think your points are some what correct. I think you can leave here (just as I have before) What I learned was not to use the site as a "crutch." Just take the advice as ADVICE. I think we all get wrapped up in girls (considering the number of people that are registered on the forum)

Thats true, but doesnt relate to what im saying. What im saying is get off the site because the focus is on what society thinks is right for us, not what we actually want. When the transition of focus happens then come back and chase girls in a more healthy state of mind.

Somethings in our life we should throw away. Such as bad eating habits, not excersieing, etc. But I don't think throwing out your television will solve any problems. Neither will throwing your computer away. Those things don't keep you from doing what YOU need to do. YOU keep you from doing what you need to do. (thats a lot of yous hehehehe)

I believe i am right. If you dont have work to do on the computer, throw that and your TV away and see your results sky rocket. I dont expect anyone to never use it again, but seriously consider stopping them until you don't have a bad habit out of them. Dont knock it till you try it.

So I think that we need to put THINGS in order. If you watch to much television you don't throw it out the window. You put television overhere for awhile and focus on what needs to be done. I truly believe what seperates the greats from the not so greats is that they have their life in ORDER.

This is true. Thats easier said then done and to be able to do that you need to do something drastic. I dont mean throw your TV out just set yourself a goal to stop using it for so you dont 'depend' on it. I gaurantee you, your life will become so much more interesting you wont want to even watch TV.

On the topic of getting girls I believe the reason a lot of us are not happy is because we DONT TRY. I bet half the members of this site could get decent girls if we just tried more. I mean we set back in front of our computer screens and say to ourselves "oh my gah how did so andso do that? I could NEVER do something like that. See...you already defeated yourself before you even begin. What you did was you just installed a new belief in your mind that you cannot seduce a girl, and you know what your mind says? "You're right" because your mind doesnt know any better. It just listens to whatever you tell it.

True, doesnt go against anything i said in my post.

quote]Secondly, I think we are just to d*amn self centered. "Oh I want this girl, shes so hot , etc. However, we never think of what SHE might be wanting. I think we would see a lot of improvement in our lives concerning women if we would just take the spotlight off of us and put it on them. I'm not talking about worshiping, im talking about thinking of what SHE might need. Instead of thinking "wow Id like to get a peice of that a$$"...and don't even tell me you don't think that. Instead why not think, "hmmm...I wonder what her dreams are? I wonder how I could help her achieve something in her life?" I mean really guys shes a human being too underneath what little clothes she has on. I'm nto saying focus all your energies on the girl but why not be willing to add a little fun to her life instead of the other way around.[/quote]

Think of getting her then rather the actual pleasure of finding out more about her. I agree 100% which is why im telling people to leave for a while. The 1st thought patterns you described are doing it for the 'achievement' and 'recognition' while the 2nd is doing out of fun.

On having other people giving you credit and looking for acceptance. That's human. I do, however, think that sometimes it gets out of control. Such as doing things for others JUST so they like you. Not everyone is going to like you.....sad but true.

I was having a convo with Matrix the other night aka Antichrist_Star. He said something that really stuck at me. "Man your just a ginuwine nice person. And as sad it may sound nice guys do finish behind." I thought about it and he was abosutly right. Don't be the nice guy goign around looking to help other people's problems or looking for valadation. Just be there to lend a helping hand. Because what happens is if people know you'll help them etc, then they will USE you. (more on this later)

Sammo I do admire you ( flame me if you must) You want to live the best life you can. And I have to admire you for that. I don't think our lives will ever be perfect. Because if they were perfect we would have nothing to work at. It goes back to having things put in order and giving a continuious effort to keep improving

I remember hearing Anthony Robbins say something that I thought was profound..."The only reason you don't have what you want is because of the lie you've made up of why you can't have it." Or something to that effect.

Just my two cents on the topic...

Most of what you said here is in line with my original post. I dont think my life will perfect, all im trying to do is make it exciting.

 

[Sammo]

Originally posted by Elti Boi
I came to this forum trying to get rid of a problem.

Girls were a problem for me until i came to this site.

When you have a problem you focus on the problem trying to solve it.

Everyone wants a partner, everyone wants sex.

Whatever reason you came to find this site and become a part of this forum, you will all soon reach a point of SELF REALISATION.

ie. if u came to this site because you couldn't seem to get girls.

Once you get girls and are confident with getting them you move on.

You REALISE that life isn't only about girls. And let yourself appreciate other things in life. Whether it be hobbies or whatever.

You REALISE that you don't need girls thus making you even more desirable!

Unfortunately most the people on this forum have not reached that point of SELF REALISATION! Therefore you shouldn't be telling people to leave the site. The guy who posted this site may feel he is ahead of everyone else. Everyone else needs to catch up with him. Dont be self centred.

~Elti Boi
One love

Haha, your order is all mixed up. Its more like this.

You REALISE that life isn't only about girls. And let yourself appreciate other things in life. Whether it be hobbies or whatever.

You REALISE that you don't need girls thus making you even more desirable!

NOW YOUR START GETTING GIRLS!

How do you come to this realisation? You get a life.

You ever wonder why i called this post "Contradictary seduction"? I know it doesnt make sense but hanging around here isnt going to let you come to your 'self realisation'.

 

[Sammo]

Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Sammo, why is being busy all the time sooo important?? Making yourself busy so you dont call a girl if fuggin gay. Everything you mentioned you probably take part in yourself...THEREFORE...dont be hypocritical (sp?). Go back and read your post and try to understand some of the stuff you said.

Is that so?? Playing xbox, sleeping and getting drunk is to make people like me?? Interesting...

Correct I'm a mess, youre a mess, everyone in the world is f*cked up, good call.

Hope i didnt offend, but thats the feeling i got out of your reply. I'm not 'busy' all the time, im just doing something that is more interesting then calling a girl. I understand perfectly what i have said. Most of the people in the world are ****ed up, you've heard the endless posts on what society does to men these days, it should be in our best responsibility to reverse this conditioning/

I never play computer games or watch TV. I only come on the computer to write here because ive all ready gone through that transition i spoke of. All i can say is that it was awesome and im getting more girls now then i ever was. However im not telling you to NEVER play computer games or watch TV im just asking you to try it. Honestly it will be hard but its well worth it.

Alot of what i said was an exageration to add effect. Obviously going to sleep isnt going to make people like you. But i will say that ALOT of people get drunk because they think more people will like them.

 

[Sammo]

Originally posted by Pex
Sammo, I seriously think you subconsciously mean to write these types of posts to yourself.

Haha, think what you will. Either way, its still true.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Originally posted by Sammo
Hope i didnt offend, but thats the feeling i got out of your reply. I'm not 'busy' all the time, im just doing something that is more interesting then calling a girl. I understand perfectly what i have said. Most of the people in the world are ****ed up, you've heard the endless posts on what society does to men these days, it should be in our best responsibility to reverse this conditioning

You didnt offend me, i just felt that you made a stupid comment. If only people could say something and not have it percieve by everyone. Being busy to call girls is on thing, doing other things is also something else, BUT since people are so stupid theyre gonna misunderstand and fvck everything up.

 

[undesputable]

Originally posted by Sammo
Stop focusing on the girl, focus on your life, become the prize!
So that leaves us with an interesting question. What the **** are you still doing here?

You know i ask myself that too. A couple of weeks ago i was like **** i got to get out there, wtf am i doing here? but you know youre saying to stop focusing on girls and if you think about it youre contradicting yourself by saying that and then saying get out there and start macking. I have a pretty decent game and i know i can pick up chicks pretty well, and when im here and think "yea i do know how to pick up girls, but im busy doing stuff" btw im on my way to building an internet buisness so ive been working on my computer a lot these past couple of weeks. but anyways thats better than not going out there and pick up chicks bc you know you cant. so thats it, i can but i dont need to.

 

[Sammo]

Originally posted by oakraiderz2
You didnt offend me, i just felt that you made a stupid comment. If only people could say something and not have it percieve by everyone. Being busy to call girls is on thing, doing other things is also something else, BUT since people are so stupid theyre gonna misunderstand and fvck everything up.

'Nuff said

 

[TheCalmGuy]

good post