Considering University? DONT DO IT. MBA / BA / Bsc DONT DO IT.

[FuzzX]

I have to say this, I've been doing uni online now for well over 5 years. I'm most of the way complete and so far my experience has been nothing short of total frustration. I thought I could dodge the political discussions by taking the degree online but it seems there is simply no way around academic arrogance. Unless you are taking a pure math or science degree, there is simply no reason to go back to university. I wish I had instead faked my degree.

Let me explain.
When I was in my twenties I took a week long course called a TESOL. They shipped me out to Korea, then I later skipped from Brazil to Japan and then on to Mexico and China. I didn't have a degree but that didn't stop me from getting gigs teaching English. I worked hard trying to learn new ways to get through to my students and find pieces of media and present them in a way that would be interesting for them. I spent about 17 years in this job so one might call it a career? Apparently not as having a BA is what is confers the 'teacher' status upon you. Well I finally decided to go for the BA and get my wings. Fast forward nearly 6 years later. I have yet to learn ONE thing that would help me teach an ESL class better. Although, I have learned that people with degrees for the most part are fvcking retards. I have learned that most people who are in university can hardly take care of themselves and have the most un-informed opinions of anyone I've ever met. The professors have ZERO life experience and grade you based upon their own political leanings and what a book tells them to. After having enough of 'returned' and 'failed' assignments in political science, sociology and 'communications' because I didn't hold the Marxist opinions of my 'betters', I changed over into a B'Ed program (Education). You would think that a program in education would be about teaching techniques and theories on classroom management, but you would be mistaken. No, education is squarely about teaching Marxist theory to lower life-forms and writing essays on self hate and LGBT. After 10 courses of white guilt, Marxist theory, Anti-capitalism and MORE COMMUNISM, I got fed up and changed into pure STEM.

You'd think that would change things right? Think again. The people who run these courses are 'high level thinkers' with very little in the way of people skills or industry experience. They might as well have been machines because their responses to assignments consisted of nothing more than binary answers to abstract questions. If I submitted a proposal for a project, I would get a series of abstract denials but no actual pinpoint responses. Want clarification to a technique or process? Forget it, they will just point you to the text book as though you never considered reading it. Everything I learned I could have taught myself FOR FREE.

Business courses were run by MBA's who had only a modicum of business experience as possibly a manager or low level employee. Entrepreneurial courses? Failed. Why? Didn't incorporate meaningless HR survey speak. Didn't include references to diversity quotas. Don't lean to the left FAR enough. None of this makes business sense, infact it lends credence to the theory of 'Get Woke Go Broke'. There is very little in the way of true soft skills, just corporate nonsense and busy work.

If you go to university, you are not getting industry professionals as your teachers, you are getting professional failures. The only thing these people are good at is reading and regurgitating. They can never provide meaningful feedback because they have none.

Would you let an AFC teach you how to be a PUA? No? Then why would you let a Academic derelict tell you how to run a business...
If I can offer one piece of advice, if you want to be well read, go to the library for a year. If you want to learn to code, start now by building a game or an app. If you want to learn to teach, get a TESOL and GO do it. If you want to learn how to debate, arm yourself with FACTS and go to the DNC.

If you want to learn to fail, get a Bachelor's Degree.

 

[Chronocidal]

Where was this degree program? It sounds like it was in the USA; what made you choose that instead of Korea, Brazil, Mexico, or China?

 

[RickTheToad]

I have to say this, I've been doing uni online now for well over 5 years. I'm most of the way complete and so far my experience has been nothing short of total frustration. I thought I could dodge the political discussions by taking the degree online but it seems there is simply no way around academic arrogance. Unless you are taking a pure math or science degree, there is simply no reason to go back to university. I wish I had instead faked my degree.

Let me explain.
When I was in my twenties I took a week long course called a TESOL. They shipped me out to Korea, then I later skipped from Brazil to Japan and then on to Mexico and China. I didn't have a degree but that didn't stop me from getting gigs teaching English. I worked hard trying to learn new ways to get through to my students and find pieces of media and present them in a way that would be interesting for them. I spent about 17 years in this job so one might call it a career? Apparently not as having a BA is what is confers the 'teacher' status upon you. Well I finally decided to go for the BA and get my wings. Fast forward nearly 6 years later. I have yet to learn ONE thing that would help me teach an ESL class better. Although, I have learned that people with degrees for the most part are fvcking retards. I have learned that most people who are in university can hardly take care of themselves and have the most un-informed opinions of anyone I've ever met. The professors have ZERO life experience and grade you based upon their own political leanings and what a book tells them to. After having enough of 'returned' and 'failed' assignments in political science, sociology and 'communications' because I didn't hold the Marxist opinions of my 'betters', I changed over into a B'Ed program (Education). You would think that a program in education would be about teaching techniques and theories on classroom management, but you would be mistaken. No, education is squarely about teaching Marxist theory to lower life-forms and writing essays on self hate and LGBT. After 10 courses of white guilt, Marxist theory, Anti-capitalism and MORE COMMUNISM, I got fed up and changed into pure STEM.

You'd think that would change things right? Think again. The people who run these courses are 'high level thinkers' with very little in the way of people skills or industry experience. They might as well have been machines because their responses to assignments consisted of nothing more than binary answers to abstract questions. If I submitted a proposal for a project, I would get a series of abstract denials but no actual pinpoint responses. Want clarification to a technique or process? Forget it, they will just point you to the text book as though you never considered reading it. Everything I learned I could have taught myself FOR FREE.

Business courses were run by MBA's who had only a modicum of business experience as possibly a manager or low level employee. Entrepreneurial courses? Failed. Why? Didn't incorporate meaningless HR survey speak. Didn't include references to diversity quotas. Don't lean to the left FAR enough. None of this makes business sense, infact it lends credence to the theory of 'Get Woke Go Broke'. There is very little in the way of true soft skills, just corporate nonsense and busy work.

If you go to university, you are not getting industry professionals as your teachers, you are getting professional failures. The only thing these people are good at is reading and regurgitating. They can never provide meaningful feedback because they have none.

Would you let an AFC teach you how to be a PUA? No? Then why would you let a Academic derelict tell you how to run a business...
If I can offer one piece of advice, if you want to be well read, go to the library for a year. If you want to learn to code, start now by building a game or an app. If you want to learn to teach, get a TESOL and GO do it. If you want to learn how to debate, arm yourself with FACTS and go to the DNC.

If you want to learn to fail, get a Bachelor's Degree.

Why did you go after the bachelor's degree? What was the end game? Why not just stick with teaching English and experiencing other cultures?

 

[FuzzX]

Where was this degree program? It sounds like it was in the USA; what made you choose that instead of Korea, Brazil, Mexico, or China?

I would love to tell you, and I'd post it except that if word ever got back, I'd be thrown out. All universities are extremely feminist, radical left wing establishments and any evidence of their students engaged in anything non-feminist would be grounds for immediate termination. [You are welcome to PM me about it though] An instructor just threatened to throw me out for disagreeing with her marking scheme saying that my criticisms constituted harassment, I'm in the process of dropping the course as I type this. I chose this route because teaching English is technically illegal without a degree. If a degree IS NOT required than the people with degrees get chosen first or get access to exclusive jobs. I'm too old to keep trying to find work arounds.

For instance, you can find jobs without a degree in China but you are always skirting the system. You need to make a corporate connection that has significant pull within the system and then you are beholden to that person. With a degree, you can just walk in and out of the country with just a quick trip to the customs office. The best jobs with places like Walstreet English are handed over to the people with degrees and those types of people ALWAYS end up running home because they didn't put any effort into getting the job nor are they used to a conservative system [most are leftarded]. So once I have my degree, I'll be a god among men. Not only do I have the experience to back up my career but I'll have the creds to make walking into and out of jobs, near effortless. Those are usually the six figure jobs in ESL too.

 

[FuzzX]

Why did you go after the bachelor's degree? What was the end game? Why not just stick with teaching English and experiencing other cultures?

I'm married, I'm done experiencing cultures... it's all about money and a safe [non-feminist] place to live now. The end game is an easier life and if we can have a kid, less hassle trying to work around the system. A degree makes things 100x easier when applying for jobs. I can almost get any job at the moment with a lot of effort. With the degree, I can get any job without ANY effort. Also I want to work for a university because those ****ers do absolutely nothing and get free room and board plus a decent wage pretty well anywhere on Earth. I'll also be in a better position to oust feminist from my working place. The degree is an incredible amount of leverage and means that the body you work for doesn't have to do any political gymnastics to keep you working. With the US economy tanking, those uni-leftards are going to be going abroad in droves. The degree is a serious defense against their tactics. Maybe I'll make a thread on teaching English and how to get around the office politics.

I legit love teaching, I would do it for free if I didn't need money. I'm tired of retarded left wing jerk offs trying to get in my face during classes. I'm talking about other teachers, and this was WAY before all the social justice sh1t started to turn up. I was fighting feminists in ESL 20 years ago. I can only imagine how horrible the ESL world is now.

Once in China, I said the word "FAG" during a class and had another teacher [democrat young woman] run right into my face and scream. I yelled so loud at her to leave class that she shook and fell to the ground. When I was done, another student found her crying in a corner. The adults couldn't understand what was going on and when I explained to them, they said that "she must be nuts". The very next week a dyke appeared at the school and tried to goad me into fighting her, apparently the woman called her and she came on a plane right away.
I just told her to get bent and ignored her. She escorted this dumb b1tch to all her classes as if I was some kind of stalker (I worked at the school). She quit shortly after and both of them went back to the US together.

I should've kicked her ass and left her for dead in an alley way. Nobody in China would have cared. There wasn't any hard on to 'save the LGBTs' like they have here in North America.

Had this incident occurred here, I would've likely been facing an extended jail term. Even if I get fired, an ESL teacher with a degree can walk out of one job and right back into another.

Now you know why getting a degree is important, however, for any other field, I wouldn't even bother. For me its a golden ticket through customs, otherwise it's just an expensive piece of paper.

 

[RickTheToad]

I'm married, I'm done experiencing cultures... it's all about money and a safe [non-feminist] place to live now. The end game is an easier life and if we can have a kid, less hassle trying to work around the system. A degree makes things 100x easier when applying for jobs. I can almost get any job at the moment with a lot of effort. With the degree, I can get any job without ANY effort. Also I want to work for a university because those ****ers do absolutely nothing and get free room and board plus a decent wage pretty well anywhere on Earth. I'll also be in a better position to oust feminist from my working place. The degree is an incredible amount of leverage and means that the body you work for doesn't have to do any political gymnastics to keep you working. With the US economy tanking, those uni-leftards are going to be going abroad in droves. The degree is a serious defense against their tactics. Maybe I'll make a thread on teaching English and how to get around the office politics.

I legit love teaching, I would do it for free if I didn't need money. I'm tired of retarded left wing jerk offs trying to get in my face during classes. I'm talking about other teachers, and this was WAY before all the social justice sh1t started to turn up. I was fighting feminists in ESL 20 years ago. I can only imagine how horrible the ESL world is now.

Once in China, I said the word "FAG" during a class and had another teacher [democrat young woman] run right into my face and scream. I yelled so loud at her to leave class that she shook and fell to the ground. When I was done, another student found her crying in a corner. The adults couldn't understand what was going on and when I explained to them, they said that "she must be nuts". The very next week a dyke appeared at the school and tried to goad me into fighting her, apparently the woman called her and she came on a plane right away.
I just told her to get bent and ignored her. She escorted this dumb b1tch to all her classes as if I was some kind of stalker (I worked at the school). She quit shortly after and both of them went back to the US together.

I should've kicked her ass and left her for dead in an alley way. Nobody in China would have cared. There wasn't any hard on to 'save the LGBTs' like they have here in North America.

Had this incident occurred here, I would've likely been facing an extended jail term. Even if I get fired, an ESL teacher with a degree can walk out of one job and right back into another.

Now you know why getting a degree is important, however, for any other field, I wouldn't even bother. For me its a golden ticket through customs, otherwise it's just an expensive piece of paper.

Fair enough. Why not try to get into the gig economy? Start your own business? Go into rental property? Etc. I have several degrees in the medical field, however, if I had to do it again, I wouldn't had gone to college. It's a waste of money and time. In addition, college now is really expensive. I went to CUNY colleges back in the 90's and 20's, much more affordable; and I went part time. Nowadays, it's crazy. The GF has an MBA from a top 20 school; she still owes around 35k. I found her a way to refinance the loans, and pay them off in four years; but what they charge for college is insane. I wouldn't recommend my kids to go to college; and I'm a physician's assistant. The chief of our unit has over 600k in school loans. Not worth it.

 

[FuzzX]

Fair enough. Why not try to get into the gig economy? Start your own business? Go into rental property? Etc. I have several degrees in the medical field, however, if I had to do it again, I wouldn't had gone to college. It's a waste of money and time. In addition, college now is really expensive. I went to CUNY colleges back in the 90's and 20's, much more affordable; and I went part time. Nowadays, it's crazy. The GF has an MBA from a top 20 school; she still owes around 35k. I found her a way to refinance the loans, and pay them off in four years; but what they charge for college is insane. I wouldn't recommend my kids to go to college; and I'm a physician's assistant. The chief of our unit has over 600k in school loans. Not worth it.

Props to you. My wife and I took the PSW training, quit within the first week. Couldn't deal with that.. getting covered in sh1t, p1ss and vomit was a bit too much. My wife tolerated it much better. Anyone who works in the medical field gets my utmost respect... no jealousy here.

I've had a few businesses over the years. I think its one thing to say "just start a business" or get a rental, it's quite another to make it run. You've got to be dedicated and more importantly want to stay in one place. Rentals [I own one right now] are a headache unless you get the right tenants. I would only recommend that if a guy were buying a Duplex/Triplex to live in and then only if it was cheap. I'm going to sell this place soon and buy a MUCH cheaper duplex in the cheapest province in Canada.

I ran a kid's entertainment business for awhile, the marketing alone eats up a sh1t ton of time and in the end, I question if it's worth it in this society. More than once, I've had some **** rag on me for making a gun balloon for a boy and a flower for a girl. One particular b1tch said it was sexist and complained to the management, FIRED on the spot. Suddenly, you are under a ton of stress everytime you go to a gig. There's always some dumbass who wants to stick a 260 between his legs and pretend its a **** or some feminist broad who hates you purely because the kids don't. In the end, not worth it. Prefer doing this stuff in the 3rd world where kids and parents appreciate it and aren't looking to prove something.

I'm currently learning Android game programming, maybe it'll pay off later. I teach online for cash, I guess you could call that a business. I also work in a govt installation where my only job is to stay awake, I use it to play PS4 all day, no stress. I don't make a ton of money but I also don't need a ton to live.

When I was a younger man in my twenties, I went over to Brazil and met these guys who were running their own schools out of their houses. They taught me how to completely ghost the system, one guy didn't even have citizenship to anywhere so they technically couldn't deport him. I prefer that type of lifestyle, I don't like to stay in any one place too long and I prefer to live well below my means. I like to hide out in countries that either no one cares about or have astronomical numbers of people. Preference for places that don't speak English because I don't have to watch what I say. My last city was Guangzhou, pop 30 mil. My friends and I could speak freely and no one really cared what we were saying. If I had kids, I want to homeschool them and I don't want this bs society to influence them. I had a good time in Mexico, very chill area, didn't cost me more than $200/month to live near the beach. I'm looking for a society that doesn't replace it's teachers with drag queens and tell it's children that they can choose a sex.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Law school is not much different. I was in a tiny religious organization that ended up suing our big state university because they tried to make us sign a statement supporting gay marriage, and this was long before it became legal. We flew in a team of washington dc lawyers, and whooped_their_asses in court.

 

[RickTheToad]

Props to you. My wife and I took the PSW training, quit within the first week. Couldn't deal with that.. getting covered in sh1t, p1ss and vomit was a bit too much. My wife tolerated it much better. Anyone who works in the medical field gets my utmost respect... no jealousy here.

I've had a few businesses over the years. I think its one thing to say "just start a business" or get a rental, it's quite another to make it run. You've got to be dedicated and more importantly want to stay in one place. Rentals [I own one right now] are a headache unless you get the right tenants. I would only recommend that if a guy were buying a Duplex/Triplex to live in and then only if it was cheap. I'm going to sell this place soon and buy a MUCH cheaper duplex in the cheapest province in Canada.

I ran a kid's entertainment business for awhile, the marketing alone eats up a sh1t ton of time and in the end, I question if it's worth it in this society. More than once, I've had some **** rag on me for making a gun balloon for a boy and a flower for a girl. One particular b1tch said it was sexist and complained to the management, FIRED on the spot. Suddenly, you are under a ton of stress everytime you go to a gig. There's always some dumbass who wants to stick a 260 between his legs and pretend its a **** or some feminist broad who hates you purely because the kids don't. In the end, not worth it. Prefer doing this stuff in the 3rd world where kids and parents appreciate it and aren't looking to prove something.

I'm currently learning Android game programming, maybe it'll pay off later. I teach online for cash, I guess you could call that a business. I also work in a govt installation where my only job is to stay awake, I use it to play PS4 all day, no stress. I don't make a ton of money but I also don't need a ton to live.

When I was a younger man in my twenties, I went over to Brazil and met these guys who were running their own schools out of their houses. They taught me how to completely ghost the system, one guy didn't even have citizenship to anywhere so they technically couldn't deport him. I prefer that type of lifestyle, I don't like to stay in any one place too long and I prefer to live well below my means. I like to hide out in countries that either no one cares about or have astronomical numbers of people. Preference for places that don't speak English because I don't have to watch what I say. My last city was Guangzhou, pop 30 mil. My friends and I could speak freely and no one really cared what we were saying. If I had kids, I want to homeschool them and I don't want this bs society to influence them. I had a good time in Mexico, very chill area, didn't cost me more than $200/month to live near the beach. I'm looking for a society that doesn't replace it's teachers with drag queens and tell it's children that they can choose a sex.

Once you learn that Android language, you can make some nice dough on Fiverr and Upwork.

P.S. Orderlies and nursing assistants deal with piss and sh!t, rarely PA's and RN's. However, there's the blood issue all over the ER.

 

[FuzzX]

Once you learn that Android language, you can make some nice dough on Fiverr and Upwork.

P.S. Orderlies and nursing assistants deal with piss and sh!t, rarely PA's and RN's. However, there's the blood issue all over the ER.

Do you or the orderlies get assaulted more? I think PSW is CNA over there.

 

[RickTheToad]

Do you or the orderlies get assaulted more? I think PSW is CNA over there.

This is Bridgeport, a dude hits an orderly, they get slammed to the floor. The orderlies, at least here, are big dudes, No one has ever attacked me, so I cannot say that I've experienced that. CNA is the lowest (training basically), then RN, NP, PA, MD. We can write scripts, nurses can order tests, take vitals, etc. I'm supervised under an MD, a CNA -> CNP are supervised by other nurses. We handle more diagnosing and diseases, where NPs usually handle patient care (though I'm sure patients wouldn't consider the nursing care very good 100% of the time). Nurses are orderlies do a lot of the grunt work. They hire more nurses and PA's as they are cheaper than MDs. MD's 300k+ a year. PA's 120k - 180k per year. Nurses 80k - 150k per year. We're still understaffed, but there's only so much money for staff.

 

[eli77]

awesome post you have said what most have been expereincing for years

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Today, STEM or trades. Math, MD, tech, and or skill trades. My mate is MIS. He don't need a MBA. Bounced from a variety of business and technical analysis roles from Grad. I'm not one of those no education guys cause more often than not, it's a dumbass with nothing going on from his rented 3series used BMW. Cause dude bro. For all the Zucks dropping from ivy league and make it are less than 1%. Education doesn't necessarily have to be formal but marketable skill sets must be acquired thereafter. one of my mates went to a B level college. he's crushing it in life. I pulled a baeee last summer. her background is a BA in stem. her subordinates had MBAs. Unless work pays and you are guaranteed the gig for a behemoth amount of money and perks don't do it. There is too many trash majors with sunk cost vs acquired value.