Confusing DJ Logistics entry #1

[Mistic]

If one DJ is able to attract a woman away from another DJ, does that make him a better DJ? Is the other DJ now an AFC for not being able to handle his sh!t?

But now suppose the other DJ does not care that he lost the girl to a better DJ. Does that actually make him the better DJ for not being effected by the loss?

Is not caring just a "get of of being an AFC card" that can be used any time a female leaves you. "I dont care, I'm unaffected, so that makes me a DJ."

Is this just a cop out, or a true DJ quality?

 

[wjh]

A DJ doesn't care because he doesn't care, not because he's trying NOT to be an AFC.

If he cared he would be holding a scarcity mentality - when really, a DJ holds an abundance mentality. A DJ is AWARE of the fact that there are other girls out there, and he doesn't really want a girl who is more into another guy anyway.

If a girl likes someone else that's fine, DJ or natural, there are a ton of other girls he can pickup.

We don't even have to get into WHY a woman would "leave" a guy OR whether or not a girl was "there" to "leave" in the first place. A lot of guys CLAIM women that they have no right to and act a fool as a consequence (thus getting "left" in quotes).

 

[Guybrush]

I didn't quite understand what you are after , but let me give you my opinion:

DJism is a mentality after you successfully internalized ( see my previous post ) the do's and don'ts.

Being a DJ DOES NOT mean that you will be able to attract all the women you interact with, that's the BIGGEST LIE in the world if anyone claimed that.

Being a DJ is to be comfortable with women, life, your ambitions. Being a DJ is having direction. It is not a SKILL. The fact that she's attracted to some other DJ has nothing to do with you. Don't forget, we can only change ourselves - we don't have any effect on the others.

A real DJ wouldn't have a problem nexting someone. So he wouldn't care...

 

[TheEdgeOf]

oh fvck, my brain lol.

Alright, the way I see it, The DJ who was able to get the girl in the end is the better DJ, but the DJ who lost the girl still acted like a good DJ by not being affected by it. However, it's impossible to really tell who the better DJ is because it might have been something completely out of his control (The girl's preference in clothing for example.)

So at first glance, it would seem that the DJ who got the girl is better, but it's really impossible to tell.

 

[Mistic]

A DJ doesn't care because he doesn't care, not because he's trying NOT to be an AFC.

If he cared he would be holding a scarcity mentality - when really, a DJ holds an abundance mentality. A DJ is AWARE of the fact that there are other girls out there, and he doesn't really want a girl who is more into another guy anyway.

If a girl likes someone else that's fine, DJ or natural, there are a ton of other girls he can pickup.

We don't even have to get into WHY a woman would "leave" a guy OR whether or not a girl was "there" to "leave" in the first place. A lot of guys CLAIM women that they have no right to and act a fool as a consequence (thus getting "left" in quotes).

Okay. Let's just go with this for a minute. Imagine this scenario. You meet an HB 10 out somewhere. She's beyond a 10. She seems to have every quality you are attracted to, and you are really enjoying getting to know her. Then, some guy comes along who is suaver than you, opens you as a two set and begins to attract her away from you. You are stuck having to stay their and act like you dont care, in order to appear unaffected. In the end, the other guy wins and she goes home with him. She would have gone home with you, but you got out DJ'd. Can you really claim that this would have zero affect on you?

 

[Maxtro]

"Attract a woman away from another DJ?" It really depends on how close the woman the first DJ was. It's also about how much the DJ wants the woman.

IMO the only way the DJ can become an AFC is if really wanted the girl but still lost her. The better man won, and it wasn't him. An example is if you consider yourself a DJ and you loose your girlfriend without you wanting the relationship to end. Actually I don't think that makes you an AFC it just means that you weren't the best DJ.

 

[Infamous_Wolf]

You talk about the woman as if she is supposed to matter either of the two men involved. but she doesn't. the man doesn't upset if someone else comes and "steals his woman", because she is not "his" in the first place. he does not view her as his because the man does not need a woman to be happy. becoming possesive is handing the control over to her. she is not yours, she is her own. she owns herself. if you think she is yours, your are sadly mistaken.

 

[wjh]

Okay. Let's just go with this for a minute. Imagine this scenario. You meet an HB 10 out somewhere. She's beyond a 10. She seems to have every quality you are attracted to, and you are really enjoying getting to know her. Then, some guy comes along who is suaver than you, opens you as a two set and begins to attract her away from you. You are stuck having to stay their and act like you dont care, in order to appear unaffected. In the end, the other guy wins and she goes home with him. She would have gone home with you, but you got out DJ'd. Can you really claim that this would have zero affect on you?

Who's to say she was going home with me? Certainly it could be nice, maybe.

How do I know she doesn't have herpes? How do I even know these qualities you assume exist in her do in fact exist? I have standards that require some "getting to know" and rapport building. Unlike a lot of guys on this board, my goal with women is NOT just having sex. I look for compatibility and a lot of other things. Sex is a reward, not a goal. I'm hard to please.

The thing you have to realize is that as you become more aware of your value as a man the less value you place on a woman for simply being an attractive woman with other non-physical qualities. And, the sooner you realize there actually IS an abundance of very attractive women the sooner you will realize that you don't have to make this a big deal.

If your ego is that fragile that, when and if, another guy picks up on a girl you're running game on affects you, you need to work on your genuine confidence. If that happens, and it has happened to me, I brush it off as another guy who connected with this girl on a level I didn't. The end. I'm not needy. I don't need her.

And quite frankly, if I'm already building rapport, escalating w/ kino, etc. Then that situation with an AMOG isn't going to really phase her. She'd have to take a chance with that guy when really she already has a good thing going for her (me). Why would she do that? I know what I'm doing.

The key difference here is that I'm not "trying" to appear unaffected, I am unaffected. This girl is still a stranger to me. She's not worth any sort of emotional attachment. She doesn't deserve my vulnerability - doesn't matter how attractive she is.

 

[Mistic]

Infamous Wolf and WJH, this all sounds good in theory, but I have a little bit of a hard time believing that anyone short of an enlightened spiritual master could really be completely unaffected by having an HB or a GF swiped from you. I know this is the ideal we aspire to, but I am a person who has lost so much in life, and had so many extreme losses and shifts, that if anyone should be unattached it should be me. But I will not lie and say that I 100% dont care about what happens with women in my life.

BTW. this thread was originally intended to be silly, but since you guys responded with some valid insights, it has taken a more serious turn.