"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Completely lost on this one

faiNt`

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I will try to make this as short as possible.

A group of people I hang with on weekends .. my friend, let's call him Mark, like's a girl, let's call her Tina. Ben is another friend and is mutual with all of us. We, along with a few others not worth mentioning, go on on weekends to hang.

My friend Mark met Tina ONE time before I first met her. She is at least a 6, maybe a 7. Mark tells Ben after their first hang out that he likes Tina.

I come in at everyone's second hang out. I play the game perfectly. I'm making everyone laugh, dropping a few negs, AMOG'ing the sh*t out of people. It's obvious I'm the alpha in the group.

This Mark guy isn't even really talking to Tina, yet Ben told us that she likes him too. He has some ridiculous facial acne; I have none. He has no signs of manhood (facial hair) yet. This girl is at minimum a 6 closer to 7 and yet she likes this kid? I'm really lost as to what the hell is up.

TL;DR - girl likes acne/ugly kid and she's pretty hot, and he admits he's anti-social too, what's up?

EDIT: both Ben and Mark are MAJOR AFCs and have no f*cking clue about the game

it's SAD how they act really, yet she likes him? I can't understand this.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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jeffthechef

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I find it hard to believe you're an alpha of any sort.

"AMOG'ing the sh*t out of people"
"He has some ridiculous facial acne; I have none. He has no signs of manhood (facial hair) yet. This girl is at minimum a 6 closer to 7 and yet she likes this kid?"
"girl likes acne/ugly kid and she's pretty hot, and he admits he's anti-social too"
"both Ben and Mark are MAJOR AFCs and have no f*cking clue about the game
it's SAD how they act really"

You say all that. And with all that you also state...
"my friend, let's call him Mark"
"My friend Mark met Tina "

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I'll be honest with you. You sound insecure and AFC. AMOGing is not necessary for an alpha. Any leader of the group doesn't have to neg his group to establish dominance/position/status. The group members will know who the leader is and there will be a strong relationship among them built on trust and mutual respect.

By pointing out the acne, you seem to only focus on your "friend's" outer appearance. Not ALL girls are superficial/shallow.

You might be looking at their personalities by claiming they're AFC's. But i doubt this is the case. It sounds like simple jealousy.

If they are your friends, you should be trying to help them, or at the very least, not talk **** about them so much.

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No one on this forum can give you an answer to your question because that would require reading her mind, which is over-analyzation

Here's my advice...Stop thinking so much about why she likes them and start improving yourself. Telling by your post, there are many things to improve upon and change.

Any questions?
 

faiNt`

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jeffthechef said:
I find it hard to believe you're an alpha of any sort.

"AMOG'ing the sh*t out of people"
"He has some ridiculous facial acne; I have none. He has no signs of manhood (facial hair) yet. This girl is at minimum a 6 closer to 7 and yet she likes this kid?"
"girl likes acne/ugly kid and she's pretty hot, and he admits he's anti-social too"
"both Ben and Mark are MAJOR AFCs and have no f*cking clue about the game
it's SAD how they act really"

You say all that. And with all that you also state...
"my friend, let's call him Mark"
"My friend Mark met Tina "

______
I'll be honest with you. You sound insecure and AFC. AMOGing is not necessary for an alpha. Any leader of the group doesn't have to neg his group to establish dominance/position/status. The group members will know who the leader is and there will be a strong relationship among them built on trust and mutual respect. Ok maybe "AMOG'ing the sh*t .." was a little overboard, but it's obvious I am the leader.

By pointing out the acne, you seem to only focus on your "friend's" outer appearance. Not ALL girls are superficial/shallow. If she wasn't shallow, she would be focusing on his personality, and because he honestly laughs at my jokes more than he actually talks to her, I find that hard to believe.

You might be looking at their personalities by claiming they're AFC's. But i doubt this is the case. It sounds like simple jealousy.

They are, plain and simple, AFCs. I know this as fact.

If they are your friends, you should be trying to help them, or at the very least, not talk **** about them so much.

I'm just telling you why I don't get what's happening. I'm not going to talk about this kid's acne in real life and make him feel bad. I'm just saying I don't get how this works because he is a complete AFC and yet she likes him.

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No one on this forum can give you an answer to your question because that would require reading her mind, which is over-analyzation

Okay.

Here's my advice...Stop thinking so much about why she likes them and start improving yourself. Telling by your post, there are many things to improve upon and change.

I know, I'm working on them. I feel understanding this circumstance would help me better myself.

Any questions?
mtsmts
 
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