"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Cold Approach Success Ratio?

Manonamission

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Hey guys,

I read somewhere in a search that you should be 6/10 for getting the number on cold approaches, and 2/10 on actually hooking up or developing a relationship from a cold approach.

Considering I have just started attempting to do cold approaches, I am just curious if there are any experienced DJ's that have made at least 10 approaches in the last few weeks, and could post their results? I'd like to have something to measure myself with, and keep myself motivated to get to that point.

Thanks in advance.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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resilient

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Wow... that's really good. I've heard of 1# for 10 CAs and 1 LTR for 100 CAs. I think it may depend on how tight your game is, that determines your success ratio. It's fun to watch chicks get hit on at the gym all the time.
 

flippinfreak

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wow 1/100, that's pretty horrible resilient:p

nah, Don't worry about numbers guys. Every step towards becoming the light is a step in the right direction.

Y'all know about butter. Your going to be the hot butter knife, cutting straight through every girl you approach. In the start, the butter will be hard and your going to get measly scrapings in your first attempts, but as time goes on, you will become hotter and hotter, and eventually you will be SOOOOO HOTT...

Seriously though, it's not about numbers. I reject more than half of my cold approaches because there is no way I could spend half a minute longer with the people I am talking to. I can make friends with pretty much anybody. These days, I have people approaching me on the street that I am somewhat ashamed to have talking to me, wel that's not true in the least, I actually enjoy talking to the guy on the street corner. Some women eat it up that I can speak freely to people from all walks of life, others frown and get pissy faced about who I talk to, they go into the NEXT pile, well the "hit it and quit it" pile. I wouldn't consider them good friends though, I wouldn't invite any of them over to my house to listen to music or watch a movie, I wouldn't invite them to a party, there is NO way I would go on a trip out on the land with them(too many stories of no bodies being found)

As for approaching women and looking for closure... no can help dude. I did 10 approaches last Friday which all ended in number closes. I had an evil suspcion in the back of my mind, called all the numbers and they were legit... told the I'd see them wingnight at a place that I am barred from.

Since then, I'm in the same boat as you. I have no desire, and have been doing homework and conversing with women online. Pretty pathetic if you ask me:)
 

Wiesman44

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Numbers should be similar to this: I'm in training to be a salesman for a particular company. Out of 10 prospects, 3 will accept meetings, and one will be a client.

You can apply this to dating, b/c you are 'selling' yourself as well. 10 girl you go up to, 3 will meet w/ u, and 1 will be a fvck buddy / g/f.
 

resilient

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10/10... what are you model or something flipplin? lol... I've approached over a hundred women in the last two or so months, but got skiddish on the #close. For now on, I'll be #closing.

I think that's actually apart of the DJ pledge too. Never leave an interaction w/o a #close. I actually made a visual for my cold approaches so I can mind-map my success...

Don't know how accurate I am, but here's the visual: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1418/2630/400/approach.0.jpg
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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