"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Are people not reading the rest of the comments or what?

He said that infront of everyone to spite me because I already knew that she didn't like me like that and wanted to be friends only and he likes her, he did it to make things awkward between me and the girl, causing more drama now everyone in my social circle knows whats happened and it's made things awkward to the point where we all don't even hang out anymore.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Just drop it and Move on. You learned your lesson. No need to make 2 threads about this.
 

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jammy1257 said:
Are people not reading the rest of the comments or what?
Even without sh*tty friends, you'd still be severely lacking in the mental fortitude necessary to survive in the real world.

See, you're the one not reading. The rest of the comments are irrelevant because your situation is, for lack of a better term, inane.

If I'd have seen this post in the high school board, I could sympathize and understand, but you're a grown man going to university somewhere. You need to start taking responsibility for your own life instead of blaming your unhappiness on others and continuing to "hang around" them.

And, based on how small the infraction was, I seriously doubt your friend did anything to spite you. And, even if he did, once again, it's irrelevant.

Work on your life, bud. Get hobbies, find a passion. Hang around people who make you a better person.

When you do this, life gets a lot less dramatic and a lot more fun.
 

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Ok my bad, in the real world this is normal. Friends do things to **** things up and make things awkward it's all good, I'm the ****ed up one here.
 

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You got a lot of things to learn my friend. You won't come across many real friends in your life.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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loveshogun said:
Even without sh*tty friends, you'd still be severely lacking in the mental fortitude necessary to survive in the real world.

See, you're the one not reading. The rest of the comments are irrelevant because your situation is, for lack of a better term, inane.

If I'd have seen this post in the high school board, I could sympathize and understand, but you're a grown man going to university somewhere. You need to start taking responsibility for your own life instead of blaming your unhappiness on others and continuing to "hang around" them.

And, based on how small the infraction was, I seriously doubt your friend did anything to spite you. And, even if he did, once again, it's irrelevant.

Work on your life, bud. Get hobbies, find a passion. Hang around people who make you a better person.

When you do this, life gets a lot less dramatic and a lot more fun.
Allow me to repeat what OP just said, you made a good point. But you're missing his.

This is a game, compare this to a game of cards. What happens when you reveal your hand? You lose.

That is the issue here, enough mental psychobabble BS. This is SoSuave, not psychiatry anonymous.

Get better friends, that's it. All I'm saying.
 

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jammy1257 said:
Ok my bad, in the real world this is normal. Friends do things to **** things up and make things awkward it's all good, I'm the ****ed up one here.

In the real world, you think to yourself "Wow. What a d*ck." And you proceed to kick your "friend" out of your inner circle, and then you move on.

You don't whine about it for days, and create multiple threads crying about the topic.

What do you think we're supposed to do? Gather around a campfire and sing "Kumbaya" for you because your friend told some chick that you like her? As I said in your other thread, you seem like the type of friend that people would disrespect because you're so damn sensitive about everything.
 

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Funny thing is I've noticed with girls is when you tell a girl you like her in words or she finds out somehow EVEN if she likes you she will for some reason lose interest because it's the CHASE she enjoys, which is what we call "The Game".

That is my point I was trying to make incase some people on here forgot about that, it's a big deal telling a girl you like her because your basically giving up and revealing your hand but in my case I already knew what she had for me, I already knew her hand and I didn't wanna lose even more by losing her friendship and awkwardness.

It's about RESPECT, I wanted to him to respect my wishes and I gave him my trust by telling him, that was a privilege I thought he deserved as a close friend guess I was wrong.

Is it right to betray a friend's trust and blurt inner thoughts and feelings out to everyone? You think it's right to cheat on your partners too?
 

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Iceberg said:
In the real world, you think to yourself "Wow. What a d*ck." And you proceed to kick your "friend" out of your inner circle, and then you move on.

You don't whine about it for days, and create multiple threads crying about the topic.

What do you think we're supposed to do? Gather around a campfire and sing "Kumbaya" for you because your friend told some chick that you like her? As I said in your other thread, you seem like the type of friend that people would disrespect because you're so damn sensitive about everything.
Jammy, read this.



jammy1257 said:
Funny thing is I've noticed with girls is when you tell a girl you like her in words or she finds out somehow EVEN if she likes you she will for some reason lose interest because it's the CHASE she enjoys, which is what we call "The Game".

That is my point I was trying to make incase some people on here forgot about that, it's a big deal telling a girl you like her because your basically giving up and revealing your hand but in my case I already knew what she had for me, I already knew her hand and I didn't wanna lose even more by losing her friendship and awkwardness.

If she's a cute girl, then you're supposed to like her. That's why it's NOT a big deal. Every cute girl who is in your social circle should be used to you flirting, and chatting, and touching them. The only reason it's a big deal to you is because you're not doing this. You're focusing on ONE girl, with this grade school definition of "Liking". As if liking a girl means that you aren't going out and getting other girls.

So now Suzy knows that you like her. So what. Suzy should also know that Jammy is going out every weekend and talking to other girls. And that Jammy likes plenty of girls, and that Jammy has plenty of options.

Your friend is a douche. This is true. But so what. Get over it. This wouldn't even be an interesting topic if you would stop whining about it.

Guy likes girl. Girl rejects guy. Guy moves on and finds other girls. The end.

I mean, really. What other lesson is there here? Stop telling your friend about your secrets. And stop making a big deal out of liking girls. That's it.
 
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