carbs in a high fat/protein meal

[kickureface]

one fact about carbs is that GI is important as to whether the carb should be eaten-sugars should be avoided except in pwo situations. higher gi carbs should be kept to minimum.
they do say that mixing in fat in a meal will reduce the meal's GI (compared to if you jsut at the carb by itself). supposedly, this should mean that eating fats with carbs will reduce its absorption quickness, which is optimal for most of us lifters/athletes.
however, we do have this theory that mixing carbs into a protein/fat meal is not good news: it gets you fat.
these two ideas seem to conflict. what's the deal here?

 

[Quagmire911]

Too much fat and carbs in the same meal and your body uses one for fuel and stores the other as body fat. It doesn't need two energy sources.

And what about fruits? I don't think they should be restricted to pwo...

 

[kickureface]

i dont know. im confused still. your post makes sense, but does the factr that the mix lowers GI do anything-say peanutbutter and banana..mmmmm

 

[Throttle]

there is no conflict here. sugar produces an insulin spike, the higher the GI, the bigger the spike. an insulin spike immediately PWO is considered desirable b/c it is believe that muscles emptied of glycogen will selectively uptake most of the sugar you ingest PWO. anything that slows that down, goes the theory, slows down recovery. and you're really not talking about very many calories, all things considered.

compare this to an insulin spike any other time. unless you carefully control the amount of calories to fit your body's needs at that moment, any insulin spike is going to encourage excess calories to go straight to adipose (body fat).

anyone who is at all carb sensitive should avoid this. anyone trying to get a sixpack should avoid this. everyone else (very few people on this board) can relax about mixing carbs & fat the rest of the time.

 

[kickureface]

what about if i include beans + cheese with some sour cream after my meat/salad stuffs?

 

[Dilberto]

It's ALL about total calories.......calories IN vs. calories OUT. It's really that simple! Maintain a daily caloric deficit- and the fat slowly(and SAFELY) comes off...