"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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can you expect her to kiss u to make it up to u?

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if u get angry with a girl, so being reactive to her behaviour, she won't feel in a sexy mood, so wont want to kiss u.

if she's done wrong, i.e. not met up with u when she's supppose to especially after telling u she doesn't want to see u anymore then 1 hour later changes her mind saying she still wants to see u.

should i expect her to kiss me to make up for it?

friends dont kiss, but when i spend time with her its like if i dont kiss her or go forward than im just friendzoned. we already kissed but she freaked out.

now i feel like she's met someone else during the past 2 days and now has forgot about me and changed her mind again.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drift_king said:
if u get angry with a girl, so being reactive to her behaviour, she won't feel in a sexy mood, so wont want to kiss u.

if she's done wrong, i.e. not met up with u when she's supppose to especially after telling u she doesn't want to see u anymore then 1 hour later changes her mind saying she still wants to see u.

should i expect her to kiss me to make up for it?

friends dont kiss, but when i spend time with her its like if i dont kiss her or go forward than im just friendzoned. we already kissed but she freaked out.

now i feel like she's met someone else during the past 2 days and now has forgot about me and changed her mind again.
Man,I swear...


You've made a thousand threads about this one girl. It's like...


She wants to see you...she doesn't.

She didn't want to kiss you...she did kiss you...then she freaked out when she did kiss you.


She didn't want to see you...then she changed her mind and agreed to meet up....then she changed her mind again and flaked.


Now you think she may be seeing someone else.


All the mindgames,indecisiveness,flakiness,frustration, immaturity,and other crap she put you through...ALL THAT...and your only concern is getting a kiss???


WOW.



Dude,I've seen your threads.

There's not ONE problem you've mentioned in all 8000 OF THEM that can't be solved,and I mean solved easily.


This thing you're going through with this girl is child's play...freakin' elementary.




The reason I personally don't respond to your threads is because I've been here long enough to see that you don't take the advice given.




That part is clear. I know that because you keep making the same threads over and over again,which means you didn't listen to what was said in previous threads.



If you did,you'd have grown and evovled pass these "rookie" mistakes and made threads about more challenging problems.



Getting a kiss from a hot girl may make you feel good,but to think it'd make up for all the weeks of agravation she put you through...and is currently still putting you through is a disgrace.
 
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Igetit! said:
Man,I swear...


You've made a thousand threads about this one girl. It's like...


She wants to see you...she doesn't.

She didn't want to kiss you...she did kiss you...then she freaked out when she did kiss you.


She didn't want to see you...then she changed her mind and agreed to meet up....then she changed her mind again and flaked.


Now you think she may be seeing someone else.


All the mindgames,indecisiveness,flakiness,frustation, immaturity,and other crap she put you through...ALL THAT...and your only concern is getting a kiss???


WOW.



Dude,I've seen your threads.

There's not ONE problem you've mentioned in all 8000 OF THEM that can't be solved,and I mean solved easily.


This thing you're going through with this girl is child's play...freakin' elementary.




The reason I personally don't respond to your threads is because I've been here long enough to see that you don't take the advice given.




That part is clear. I know that because you keep making the same threads over and over again,which means you didn't listen to what was said in previous threads.



If you did,you'd have grown and evovled pass these "rookie" mistakes and made threads about more challenging problems.



Getting a kiss from a hot girl may make you feel good,but to think it'd make up for all the weeks of agravation she put you through...and is currently still putting you through is a disgrace.
so you're saying the advice of walking away and spinning other plates is the only advice and solution to any of this?

so should i just not see her today?

it's like she's not sure she wants a bf right now especially 1 who is quite demanding like me, im putting way too much pressure on her to commit rather than getting her to make me want to commit.

its like in her head she's trying to make a decision whether she wants to give up all the male attention and dates and meetings with other guys to be with me and only me.

me giving her a hard time about forgetting to meet up is not helping things, telling what she did wrong doesnt help i realise this now.

only walking away or her thinking u walked away makes her act.

i.e. when she texted me she still wanted to kiss me cos she missed me.

i failed the test by going back to her too quick, she probably feels now she can have me anytime she wants so the challenge is gone.

what at this stage should i expect her to do to make it up to me??

i have no idea what i should be expecting.. she's half making it up to me by seeing me tonight a day after she messed up, i thought maybe her come watch me play football 1 day even tho it's freezing outside and she hates the cold. she needs to show me by actions that shes sorry.

but her coming to see me tonight could just get into the web of me giving her attention but she doesnt put out.

i feel at this stage we should be doing this. if i dont get some tonight then i'll have to just give up.

i think it's already too late cos she's made up in her mind that she doesn't want to see me given how angry i got at her forgetting that she's just stringing me along.. she denies thats what she was doing but i have to judge her actions and walk away.
 

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I'm going to give you a bit of advice from a girls perspective, cuz I am a girl.

Your message above has given the impression that you are very intense, possibly even clingy. Although some girls like this, for the majority of girls its off putting. In the past I use to keep these guys ligering around for when i needed an ego boost, or whatever, and I am guessing she is doing the same. I dont think she will ever be able to commit to you, and even if she does, I dont think it will last long, because your expectations of a relationship are very different. I really think you should move on.
 
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