Can you be too AFC if the girl has high interest?

[spunkylimburger]

I ask this because I see girls with guys who exude classic AFC traits, but they eat it up because they have high interest. I guess what I'm asking is it even possible to be AFC if a female has high interest. And if so, what is the typical shelf on this type of relationship?

 

[ArcBound]

I ask this because I see girls with guys who exude classic AFC traits, but they eat it up because they have high interest. I guess what I'm asking is it even possible to be AFC if a female has high interest. And if so, what is the typical shelf on this type of relationship?

One thing I think is wrong with the alpha vs beta (AFC) mentality is that people think it is binary. They think you have to weed out all of your beta traits and replace them completely with alpha traits, and never, EVER show anything that can be seen as beta.

For a relationship I truly believe you do need some of that beta sh!t and girls do like it....up to a certain point. Most AFC's go overboard and throughout all stages of the relationship try to impress, buy her stuff etc..But mix in some alpha stuff and she eats you up.

Some days tell her she looks beautiful. Other days tell her you're going to smack that a$$ and you are going in dry.

My guess is those guys you see do exhibit alpha stuff when you're not around. I know guys who post wuvy lovy sh!t on their gf's walls at times but in real life they are alpha as fvck.

 

[Zerro]

One thing I think is wrong with the alpha vs beta (AFC) mentality is that people think it is binary. They think you have to weed out all of your beta traits and replace them completely with alpha traits, and never, EVER show anything that can be seen as beta.

Yup, many guys think you need to become the exact opposite of what you were, so if you were a nice guy you need to become a jerk when the reality is that you just need to stop being a pushover and gain more of an edge to your personality.

For a relationship I truly believe you do need some of that beta sh!t and girls do like it....up to a certain point. Most AFC's go overboard and throughout all stages of the relationship try to impress, buy her stuff etc..But mix in some alpha stuff and she eats you up.

Some days tell her she looks beautiful. Other days tell her you're going to smack that a$$ and you are going in dry.

I do enjoy spoiling my girlfriend time to time, then I'll turn right around and remind her how I got her attention in the first place. You can still be enough of a bad boy to excite her while still being loving enough to keep her attached.

My guess is those guys you see do exhibit alpha stuff when you're not around. I know guys who post wuvy lovy sh!t on their gf's walls at times but in real life they are alpha as fvck.

You described a co-worker of mine, he's got a hot girlfriend who'll do whatever he wants but he'll get taunted and mocked by the more "alpha" guys when he posts the lovey-dovey stuff. Said "alpha" dudes seem to be perpetually date-less, however, and it never seems to click in their heads that me might be on to something.

 

[bigneil]

You have one minute of AFC behavior credit per 6 months of dating before she dumps you.

What is AFC behavior? Whatever she thinks it is.

One man can give her flowers and she'll melt. Another man can do it and it's AFC. Perception is reality. Regardless of what they think, I treat every woman I love like a Princess. A bad one, but a Princess nonetheless. I wear a tie, hold the door, and spoil them on occasion. If that turns them off, good riddance... experience has shown that they never forget me.

 

[ArcBound]

You have one minute of AFC behavior credit per 6 months of dating before she dumps you.

What is AFC behavior? Whatever she thinks it is.

One man can give her flowers and she'll melt. Another man can do it and it's AFC. Perception is reality. Regardless of what they think, I treat every woman I love like a Princess. A bad one, but a Princess nonetheless. I wear a tie, hold the door, and spoil them on occasion. If that turns them off, good riddance... experience has shown that they never forget me.

I actually respect this kind of mindset. It goes with whole Anti-Dump's machine where you do what you want and if the girl doesn't like it you move on to the next girl, and eventually the machine will churn out a girl who you are compatible with.

 

[bigneil]

Events aren't just for her to remember - they are for you as well. When else to have your best days than with your best woman?

 

[spunkylimburger]

Let me elaborate on my OP with an example. I know a girl who was in a 4-5 year LTR with my friend, who wasn't really alpha but didn't do romantic things like buy cards and flowers. He is just a stable, solid dude. Anyways, he always told me his LTR always craved things like flowers and love letters, but he never really gave in. After their LTR ended, she started dating a guy who showered her with attention and wrote mushy stuff on her wall for the world to see. She is eating up this attention, but they are in the honeymoon phase of dating. This made me wonder which dude gamed her better? The dude that remained a challenge by not being sappy or the guy giving her what she always craved?

 

[cremasta7]

This made me wonder which dude gamed her better? The dude that remained a challenge by not being sappy or the guy giving her what she always craved?

The dude that's giving it to her right now!

 

[TheJazz]

Simply put, the AFC is an effeminate male. He just is. He is effeminate, he is feminine, he is girly. High interest may mask that temporarily, but in the long term, the interest level will fizzle out and the girl will dump him. You've heard the saying "opposites attract," right? Provided they're both different sexes and heterosexual, if both are feminine, the relationship just won't work.

On the other hand, if the girl's butch, they might have a shot.

 

[st_99]

I ask this because I see girls with guys who exude classic AFC traits, but they eat it up because they have high interest. I guess what I'm asking is it even possible to be AFC if a female has high interest. And if so, what is the typical shelf on this type of relationship?

IMO, most likely these afc types that get with decent chicks have natural authenticity and congruency about them. They just don't know any better but to be themeselves which ironically gives them a strong unbreakable frame which is attractive to most girls.

Thats my take on the parodoxical question: "how does an afc get into a relationship with a decent girl?"