Can Someone explain NEGS comprehensively?

[the_govner]

I've read two negative things about it in the last couple days. From what I understand it's just harmless teasing.

I want to know what it is exactly and why so many people find it beginner-ish.

 

[Last Man Standing]

A negative is used on another, when one cannot find a positive within!!!

 

[Andromax]

The idea behind a neg is that when a woman presents her self as above you or on a pedastal through an interaction with her, you make a statement to indicate that you are either not impressed or just to knock that pedestal right out from under her.

Her; I work as a banker on Wall Street blah blah
You; Oh yeah what do you plan on doing when you grow up?

Though alot of guys use negs when they arent needed and it can really hurt your game.

 

[everywomanshero]

Here's what I say: Running around telling women they have eye crusties or hair pieces is just plain weird. If guys would simply be cool, they wouldn't feel like they need some kind of cryptonite to defuse "*****y women". I almost never get *****y women anymore, and when I do I've found a lot of times they are actually shy which I misinterpreted as *****y... As far as harmless teasing or "humor negs", I think this happens all the time in normal conversation.

The women are *****y because men think they will be *****y, it's a self-fuffiling prophecy. I don't assume women will be *****y, therefore, they aren't *****y to me. While it is possible to effectively use negs in very specific circumstances, I personally think it's better not to go down this road of thinking. My way of thinking is that women will be into me no matter what, so I am just friendly and let them get turned on. To each his own though.

 

[ready123]

Andromax explained it well. you're reframing the interaction. if the girl thinks she has higher value, a well calibrated neg will make her think otherwise. it's situational

the thing is, most guys starting out have no sense of relative value or social calibration and start negging EVERYBODY. you neg a girl who isn't being a conceited btch, or you get overly nasty with the neg, you run the risk of blowing yourself out

 

[aldaris]

negs are only needed when she knows that you are a lowly chump. if you gotta neg her you probably need to start fresh with a new broad. i know you are asking yourselves, "but why would aldaris say such a thing?" aldaris says such a thing because first impressions are everything. 8 out of 10 broads decide within the first 20 minutes of meeting you if they will let you bang'em. so, rather than blow your time chasing after a dead duck you should find a broad who is willing to let you fornicate with her. there is a reason you have heard the phrase, "love at first sight". it is true.

if she is acting high and mighty around you i would suggest that you just get up and leave. if you have any shot with her she will call or sms your azz. when she contacts you she won't be pissed either. she will be hurt. that is when you know you are going to be getting some. if she doesn't contact you or is pissed when she does contact you then she is a dead duck.

this doesn't bode well for short or asian guys. all broads seem to want to have a guy bend down to kiss'em. broads also, for some reason, seem to have it in for asian guys. so cruel but so true. if you are one of the above i would make sure to always stand in front of a very expensive car or get a personal assistant who walks around handing you things. if you are asian maybe wear dark shades. if skippy can pretend to be black i am sure that an asian playboy can pretend to be anything but asian.

 

[Technical1]

Admittedly I'm a rAFC, but I LOVE NEGS!

A subtle neg is so awesome for restoring the balance of power and killing your supplication. Confident women respond well to them. Its all about the playful delivery.

Newbies like myself always go overboard with negs. But its better than the old way!!! Problem is that girls with low-self esteem, or anxiety, or ones that perceive your value as being high, cant take the negs. Since I am 6'2" and handsome I know I come from a position of high attraction usually, so already the tension is turned up, and the negs really fvck with their mind. It is bad... but at least its bad in a good way. I think I gave one girl a complex though cuz I was negging her so much. You have to be careful because if the girl isnt self-confident and if she is into you, i.e. kind of supplicating, looking at the floor, qualifying herself to you, then negs hurt her little delicate sense of self. (poor baby!) Have to be more delicate with the negs in future!

 

[the_govner]

Thanks for the replies.

Now then, what is the difference between a good subtle neg and being ****y and funny? The way I understand ****y and funny it's just light teasing so that you can exude funness which women love.

 

[Technical1]

I've found that the difference between a good neg and a hurtful neg depends on one thing: the seriousness of the thing you're negging (for both of you).

Example of bad neg. Talking with a girl that was kind of lower-class type, not really sparking my interest. I made fun of her style, implying she was a feminine tomboy, because she dressed kind of dumb skater style, not classy at all. But the truth was, her style really was stupid to me, I genuinely didnt like it. So even though I brought this across in a playful way, I must have subcommunicated that I meant it. She kept saying: "I never know if you're serious or not." The problem is, I was really half-serious. Don't neg her on stuff that you actually mean as criticism. Don't neg sincerely, in other words.

Good neg. I was chatting up a girl in a class I had to assistant teach. She had highlighted an entire page of her notebook. We were getting along really well, high IOIs, she was laughing and into me. I said, "Look, you highlighted the entire page, what good is that? You probably didn't even read it. But the important thing is, now it looks like you did." She replied "Exactly." and then we both laughed. That raised her temperature noticeably and got us both laughing together.

so negs backfire when you are negging on something that you genuinely are not cool with, and with low-selfesteem chicks.

 

[Technical1]

oops, you wanted ****y and funny

C&F vs. Negs

C&F is about being outcome dependent and not caring what happens, being spontaneous. Usually you put up resistance to things people say and challenge them as part of verbal sparing.

Negs are kind of a playful attack or pseudo-criticism.

Honestly I dont see the value in attempting to draw a line, once you're ****y and funny you'll be doing *subtle* negs whether you notice it or not.

 

[ARrocket]

Yeah I totally agree with Technical1, if you're C&F the negs come naturally, you don't put much thought into them.

 

[Dongfu]

I've read two negative things about it in the last couple days. From what I understand it's just harmless teasing.

I want to know what it is exactly and why so many people find it beginner-ish.

I'm pretty sure Mystery could explain it

 

[the_govner]

Yeah I totally agree with Technical1, if you're C&F the negs come naturally, you don't put much thought into them.

This is good, absolutely get it now.

Thanks.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

its in the archives
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18353&highlight=neg