"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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c&f worked so damn well now what?

gimmeyofonenumba

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There is this hb that works in the same bldg as me, and I see on my way to work. Before I had like no intentions of getting with her. People go extremely outa their way to just pass by her desk. This chick gets so much damn attention, I was like screw it. I'd always just ignore her. Just recently she's been initiating convo with me. I'd do the c&f with not too much 'f', giver her a hard time,etc.and not be too excited, cause I wasnt. I still wasnt interested in this chick. It worked like a charm. She's happy to see me, asked one of my supervisors about me,etc. Now I'm not sure what to do. I was thinking of backing of the c&f and neg-ing, but I have a feeling once I do that Im just another guy again.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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gimmeyofonenumba said:
There is this hb that works in the same bldg as me, and I see on my way to work. Before I had like no intentions of getting with her. People go extremely outa their way to just pass by her desk. This chick gets so much damn attention, I was like screw it. I'd always just ignore her. Just recently she's been initiating convo with me. I'd do the c&f with not too much 'f', giver her a hard time,etc.and not be too excited, cause I wasnt. I still wasnt interested in this chick. It worked like a charm. She's happy to see me, asked one of my supervisors about me,etc. Now I'm not sure what to do. I was thinking of backing of the c&f and neg-ing, but I have a feeling once I do that Im just another guy again.
YOU:
Hey Got E-mail?

HER:
Yeah

YOU:
Great. Write it down

HER:
OK (She starts writing it)

YOU:
Write down your number too. I'll only call you (pause) ten times a day.

END

Even if you aren't into her, I'd still get her number. That shows that you are man enough to do it. I doubt all those other wussies that are into her have enough balls to do that alone. Balls are good by the way.
 

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What can you do? Well, the simple answer is close her. Try to set something up outside work, and make a move on her (kiss on lips). You will know immediately if she has interest in you, rather than wasting your time.

C+F is a technique to be used lightly throughout a conversation, not every sentence has a ****y comment. That is overdoing it, and it's unsustainable - after a while it gets old and you can't develop proper rapport. If she loses interest just because you were playing "hard to get"/unobtainable - i.e. being ****y and showing no interest, then you can't win and she's a waste of time anyway (she just enjoys the "chase"/challenge).

If you carry on playing the game and looking for signals, you will get more invested in her and could start getting one-itis. If she really loves attention she could be an attention wh0re and then you can be sure she will string you along and you'll always be thinking there could be a chance. If that's the case you're better off not proceeding with her anyway. That is a headache you don't need and a great route to one-itis with an attention wh0re (one of the worst situations to be in!).

So make a move and find out.
 

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gimmeyofonenumba said:
There is this hb that works in the same bldg as me, and I see on my way to work. Before I had like no intentions of getting with her. People go extremely outa their way to just pass by her desk. This chick gets so much damn attention, I was like screw it. I'd always just ignore her. Just recently she's been initiating convo with me. I'd do the c&f with not too much 'f', giver her a hard time,etc.and not be too excited, cause I wasnt. I still wasnt interested in this chick. It worked like a charm. She's happy to see me, asked one of my supervisors about me,etc. Now I'm not sure what to do. I was thinking of backing of the c&f and neg-ing, but I have a feeling once I do that Im just another guy again.
Uh-oh, I smell trouble. This is what you get into when you don't do things purposely. :nono:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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