"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bummer when you mess up.

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Man I had a date today with a great one but i just messed up. I wasn't on my game at all and i can't help but think I have messed up my chances. I know i should next her and blah blah blah but I am not completely sure if it was a misfire, you know when you are just a bit unsure and really want to find out whether she liked it and its just the insecurities that I have tried to keep at bay acting up again. I really want to ask her if she enjoyed herself and where i stand but i know that is suicide. Im gonna just leave the ball in her court and if she contacts me then its on and i didn't completely mess up. Is this a good or bad idea to just wait for her to contact me? Should i maybe contact her first next as she could be thinking the same thing? Anyone have any tips on how to get out of the gutter after a bad performance on a date? I dont mean out of the gutter in terms of with that particular girl just being down after a date as you know you could have done better and you could have got her as there was clearly interest for her to go out in the first place.

All help will be appreciated I have tried
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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hey dude. well, 1st dates can leave a huge impression. just rememeber that im sure she was just as nervious as u were, im sure she was feeling the same way u were. most girls depending on their personalaty and attitude can sorta hide that from you. if i were u, i would give her a few days to call you. it depends of the vibe u got when u droped her off. but wither way i wouldent be too too worried if i were you. it happeneds to everyone, even the slickest of guys. dont fret too much. everything will be fine.
 

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seems like you didn't enjoy yourself much... good luck next time!
 

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Thanks guys you have actually helped, i feel much better now. I realise that although shes a good one there are plenty more and even if she doesnt call its no biggy cause its her loss anyway. Just frustrating when you are off your game you know one of those days where it just doesn't happen and then there are other days when everything is just there in place and it happens automatically.
 

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Also I pretty much did very little kino. She gave me a hand massage but that was about all the kino that went down. Any tips on how to get kino rolling. I didn't have the balls to just touch her leg or hand. I am still new to the game and i hope the balls to do such things will come in time.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Kino tip on touching the leg - do it when you want to interrupt her with a suggestion, like "hey, let's ___" It's a good way to get her to stop talking so that you can say something, as well as establishing dominance.

This is a great web site, btw. I am in the same boat as you - I'm waiting for a 9 to call me back. It takes effort not to wuss it up and call her again - almost as much effort as it took to not stare at her perfect breasts. She said before we met, "all the last guy did was stare at my chest." After I saw her, I could see why.

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ok, the 9 just called back. We have date 3 on Sunday. She says she had cel phone problems. I don't think she even knows I called her, since *thankfully* I did not leave a message. It is only because I have put the effort into learning how to not be a wuss that I am able to handle a girl this hot.
 
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