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Bringing up birth control without lowering interest

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Every time I do it, it seems to turn the girl off. Well what the fvck am I supposed to do so I don't have to waste my time fvcking with a condom? the fact that you have to do that with random girls is why I don't care about random lays in the first place.

A few days ago I brought it up with this girl. Keep in mind up to this point I'd already been telling her how I was going to fvck her, it's not like I was her girlfriend and now I want sex. Here's how it went: I asked her if she had any experience with birth control and as I thought she didn't, then I said cool I'm just looking at options like implants or pulling out cause I don't wanna use condoms. She just replied with a smiley so I said "what", and that's it. She's a great piece of @ss so I wouldn't like to miss out on her but I also can't fvck it up more by going beta or whatever while I also have other things to do anyway, and that's why I've been ghosting since.

Do most girls just not want to use birth control or what? if that's the case I don't even care about getting laid. My ex-plate fvcked me up with her rubber-free, always ready and wet pvssy... lol
 
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This sounds like a plate? Why are you even considering no rubber if you guys are not exclusive? Have you both been tested? Additionally, that doesn't really sound like a texting kind of conversation...
 

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This sounds like a plate? Why are you even considering no rubber if you guys are not exclusive? Have you both been tested? Additionally, that doesn't really sound like a texting kind of conversation...
I was going to bring up testing at some point, but you can't throw out too many bombs at one time. I already knew this alone was a big risk. Also pretty strange how bending her over can be a texting conversation, but birth control can't..
 

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I was going to bring up testing at some point, but you can't throw out too many bombs at one time. I already knew this alone was a big risk.
I dunno. I would think testing first, then maybe the birth control thing later. If a girl doesn't want to get tested, that is a flag for me. Not a deal breaker, but definitely a bit sketchy...
 

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its impossible for it not to reduce IL, it interrupts the fantasy of having your kids. Good sanity test though.
I've been thinking this is it too. But then how do you take it from condom to pill/implant?
 

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just bring it up, who cares if it lowers IL its important. Theres also an argument for always wearing a condom because you cant trust them necessarily, be it STDs or pregnancy. Keep in mind that some women wont take the pill because it can exacerbate bipolar symptoms or mood and hormonal disorders.
And what to say to them when they get upset or whatever it is they get when you bring it up, like this girl? any ideas? I think ima keep up the ghosting for about a week more, and then buckle up to see if any game works here.

Absolutely you can't. Me, I won't have sex until I've seen a test saying they're clear of stds, but the pregnancy thing is something you just will have to accept risking if you're going without rubber. As for the side effects yep they can suck. That's why I put in "pull out" there so she wouldn't get scared (it's got the same success rate as using a condom according to planned parenthood when you use it as you're supposed to), but yeah... haha. Even the precautions like that I took because I know from experience this might fvck things up weren't enough.
 

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The key is to bring it up when you are with her and it's on--like the point where you know that she knows it's already on and is too turned on to not go through with it.

E.G. while kissing her neck:
You: "I need you to be honest with me."
Her: "What?"
You (staring in her eyes--like you know if she's lying): "Are you on birth control?"

At this point her logical brain is on autopilot and chances are you'll get an honest answer. Find some condoms that you like--preferably latex-free (cause "I'm allergic to latex" is the go-to excuse)--and really you should use them anyway (easier said than done, I know).

Edit: Text her something like: "Omg I hate you. You're lucky you're cute. So coffee tonight?"

As far as testing, just say something like, "Look, I've been a little bit bad and need to get checked before we do anything. Would you like to come with me?" Or use that as an excuse to use a rubber in the beginning and then set it up to get tested together before round 2 cause you "really want to feel her."

It'll be way easier to have this convo after you've hit it once. The way you're doing it now is gonna trigger her ASD, especially via text.
 
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Major red flag for me, it's covered by most insurance! $15-20?! She doesn't have her sh*t together IMO. Does she have a job with decent insurance?

I dropped a plate last spring after a couple months because she still was too damn lazy to get on BC. She had 2 months! She even had doctors appointments but for other reasons, how the hell do you forget about that? NEXT, too much drama for me.

In the past I've managed to get 2/3 ex's to get on some form of BC. It's the smart responsible thing to do. If she can't follow your lead then that's another red flag.

If it already seems like she has some screws lose then BC will fvck with her head even more and that's probably why she's not on it. If that's the case.....RUN!
 
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