Brawl at basketball game then I told my GF I want a break from her sh#t

[Firedweller]

Hi guys. My relationship of one year has hit the rocks over the past 3 weeks - arguing constantly, trust issues, disrespect etc


Today, me her and a few friends were at a bball game and my buddy's girl got hit on twice within the space of half time - two different guys approached them when we were standing around 10 feet from them because the girls were chatting amongst themselves. On the second occasion, my buddy went over and punched the guy and a brawl broke out - I was throwing and so was my buddy.

At the end of it when there were a few words exchanged and they basically ran away, my GF stands in front of me screaming shut up to me multiple times. I just looked at her in disgust and walked off to get the bus back to our city with my buddy and the girls reluctantly followed.

When in the bus, I tried talking to my GF and she raised her voice and was rude and disrespectful. I told her that she's putting on a good show for the bus as everyone was quiet and then she told my mate that he's a fool and a loser for punching the guy because they were in the middle of telling him to go away lol.

When we got to our city the girls walked straight past us as if they were doing a sprint. I was supposed to make sure they got home okay but at this point they didn't want a bar of me and I could have throat grabbed the lot of them for how they were behaving.

When I got home my GF rang saying you coward you left us to get home by ourselves, you are no man blah blah. I said that you walked right by me wanting nothing to do with me so I gave you nothing. She then said again that what kind of man would let 3 girls walk home this late and that's when I said that I need a break from her. I said for the past 3 weeks it's just been arguing and disrespect from you so I'm out of here. She agreed and that was the end of the conversation.

So much sh!t going through my head now. Before she rang all i could think was wtf man you have broken up with women for 100x less than this. I just wanted to make this relationship work so much.

 

[No.Danny]

Time to go buddy. Relationship ran its course

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Starting a fight for that is pretty weak. Surely there were other chicks that could have been chatted up in turn/retaliation....?

The reason why the whole group of chicks went cold is because of the lack of control over emotions. Say what you want about violence, but it basically sounds like a b!tch fight amongst a group of beta wannabes. I bet there were real men there, watching on, f*cking rolling around in hysterics.

As for your chick, if it's going that way for more than a week, disappear at least for a week or two. And prepare to make the call.

 

[El Payaso]

There is no need tk fight other men for hitting on your friend's chick.

Avoid getting drawn into your girlfriend's shaming tactics/mind games. The whole "what kind of man lets girls walk alone" is just a spiel used to shame you and make you feel like $h!t.

Don't even tell her you're going on a break. Just do it and leave her hamster wondering what the f*ck happened.

 

[Heisenberg]

If you two break up, who would you hang out with at recess?

 

[Soolaimon]

Your story sounds fake to me.

If there was a huge brawl at a basketball game security would be there to break it up.

Police would be called in to arrest the betas who were brawling over disrespectful women.

Sh1t like this makes me laugh.

My relationship of one year has hit the rocks over the past 3 weeks - arguing constantly, trust issues, disrespect etc

As for your chick, if it's going that way for more than a week, disappear at least for a week or two. And prepare to make the call.

Terrible advice from the monkey king.

Disappear for good. The relationship is over. The call should have been made after "the fight" when she was b1tching at him on the bus.

Actually he should have dumped her when she started disrespecting him 3 weeks ago.

Betas are always afraid to cut loose of a woman.

Most of them try to secure her to an useless boundary for assurance to calm their fears of her leaving him for another man.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Terrible advice from the monkey king.

Disappear for good. The relationship is over. The call should have been made after "the fight" when she was b1tching at him on the bus.

Actually he should have dumped her when she started disrespecting him 3 weeks ago.

Betas are always afraid to cut loose of a woman.

Most of them try to secure her to an useless boundary for assurance to calm their fears of her leaving him for another man.

Would agree that my advice may have come across as terrible. Though I simply wasn't direct enough.

What I meant to say was, 'make the call' - as in make the call weather to end it or not, after you have had time to cool off.

I do not share Solly's 'end it immediately and forever after' black and white logic. For me that is acting like a beta spolit brat who can't control his Oedipus Complex. If we're waiting for a chick that's never going to p!ss us off one way or other, well friends all the best, but I live in reality not f*cking Disney fantasy land.

 

[Soolaimon]

Would agree that my advice may have come across as terrible. Though I simply wasn't direct enough.

Glad you agree with me on that.

Next time be more clear with your advice.

I do not share Solly's 'end it immediately and forever after' black and white logic. For me that is acting like a beta spolit brat who can't control his Oedipus Complex. If we're waiting for a chick that's never going to p!ss us off one way or other, well friends all the best, but I live in reality not f*cking Disney fantasy land.

What's beta is your little angry rant you're having here. It's funny to read.

Nothing is black and white about it man.

No, you're riding on "It's A Small World" in Fantasy Land at Disneyland thinking everything is just peachy even when things in a relationship is in the $hitter.

That is living in delusional fantasy not living in reality.

I live life in reality with clear eyes and a clear head not living in the fog that you are in.

When you see obvious problems in a relationship for over 3 weeks time you know it should be time to pull the plug.

Betas like you stay on to the very end to be disrespected, cheated on, dumped and then you want to cry about it.

That is a very stupid thing to do when it all can be avoided.

I never said an argument or disagreement won't develop in relationships.

Blatant disrespect like she has done (and other women do) shows she isn't into the relationship. That's when you dump.

You can't understand that and see it for what it is.

You are afraid to cut loose of a woman being a beta.

That's why you got mad at me and had your little rant cause my words hit home.

That's ok though cause you're here to learn and you shouldn't get mad at the truth.

If you want to get better with women you must change your beta ways and your beta state of mind.

When I got home my GF rang saying you coward you left us to get home by ourselves, you are no man blah blah. I said that you walked right by me wanting nothing to do with me so I gave you nothing. She then said again that what kind of man would let 3 girls walk home this late and that's when I said that I need a break from her. I said for the past 3 weeks it's just been arguing and disrespect from you so I'm out of here. She agreed and that was the end of the conversation.

I guess that isn't enough for you to dump a gf for disrespect monkey?

Think it will get any better with her? LOL

Quit living in delusional fantasy monkey.

No respectful gf would talk that way to her bf.

You are perfectly fine with that.

That shows me just how much disrespect you're willing to take from a woman. And you think boundaries will stop all that in your black and white world.

Pathetic!

 

[Desdinova]

On the second occasion, my buddy went over and punched the guy and a brawl broke out - I was throwing and so was my buddy.

It was pretty pointless of your friend to start that, but I get that bros back each other up.

I said for the past 3 weeks it's just been arguing and disrespect from you so I'm out of here. She agreed and that was the end of the conversation.

When a woman is taking away from your happiness instead of adding to it, it's time to kick her to the curb. Good job

So much sh!t going through my head now. Before she rang all i could think was wtf man you have broken up with women for 100x less than this. I just wanted to make this relationship work so much.

It can't just be one person making the relationship work. Both parties have to put in effort. If your woman is being nothing but a pain in the ass, then she's not contributing to the success of the relationship.

There's always better women out there. Time for you to go find them.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Glad you agree with me on that.

Next time be more clear with your advice.

What's beta is your little angry rant you're having here. It's funny to read.

Nothing is black and white about it man.

No, you're riding on "It's A Small World" in Fantasy Land at Disneyland thinking everything is just peachy even when things in a relationship is in the $hitter.

That is living in delusional fantasy not living in reality.

I live life in reality with clear eyes and a clear head not living in the fog that you are in.

When you see obvious problems in a relationship for over 3 weeks time you know it should be time to pull the plug.

Betas like you stay on to the very end to be disrespected, cheated on, dumped and then you want to cry about it.

That is a very stupid thing to do when it all can be avoided.

I never said an argument or disagreement won't develop in relationships.

Blatant disrespect like she has done (and other women do) shows she isn't into the relationship. That's when you dump.

You can't understand that and see it for what it is.

You are afraid to cut loose of a woman being a beta.

That's why you got mad at me and had your little rant cause my words hit home.

That's ok though cause you're here to learn and you shouldn't get mad at the truth.

If you want to get better with women you must change your beta ways and your beta state of mind.

Haaa.

Despite your abrupt ways and girly outlook, I do like you Solly. At least you stick around to debate, unlike some other girly 'Alphas'.

I'll regale you with a quote from Rollo's blog:

'Little girls punish each other by ‘not-being-friends-with’ another girl in their peer clutch. Using shame is a skill women learn early in life to effect the ends of their developing solipsism.'

The black and white, unforgiving exclusion that you place upon this kind of 'disrespect', well, really depends on the nature of the act itself - which is the subjective choice of every man. We don't know the nature of this woman's indiscretions so I therefore consider it somewhat cavalier and frankly irresponsible to advise our Firedweller here to simply run away like a frightened little girl.

In support, here is an indirect citation from Heartiste, The Third Beta Bait Type: The “Bad Boyfriend” Ploy :

'Sh!t tests are more obvious than beta bait, and thus easier to pass for men with excellent awareness of female hypergamy tactics. A sh!t test can be quite bold and shocking to newb ears and thus scare off lesser men, but the inveterate player always operates with the frame that sh!t tests and other assorted confusing and sh!tty female behavior are an opportunity rather than an obstacle to demonstrate his mate value. A girl who is giving you sh!t is a hell of a lot closer to sex with you than a girl who is indifferent to your existence.

....In short, sh!t tests are what women do when they feel attracted to you and don’t know how to properly deal with their growing feelings of desire. Beta bait is what women do when they are feeling LESS attracted to you (or not attracted at all), and are actively seeking ways to verify that you are indeed the beta male they love to loathe and despise.'

This is why I say you are beta for reacting like a little girl and running away from the horrible monstrous female for ever and ever and ever.

Let's all grow a pair and actually experience the indifference. I'm not saying stick around. What I'm saying is disappear for a while, live your life and she will come crawling back eventually begging forgiveness.

The only way to eliminate a unwanted behaviour is not running away scared, but pure ignorance.

 

[Starwolf]

You make Some thought provoking comments MonkeyKing..

Something different than the usual SS "Dump her and Move on" advice.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

You are not really approaching this with an understanding of the nature of the average poster here. The average poster here has a track record of committing to low quality and will never do anything to confront said low quality until a veritable accumulation of abuse finally forces the average poster to man the fvck up. Myself included. Click on OP's name and click his "past threads" link and you will see what I am talking about.

Well now, I am not approaching from the position of the average poster, but I am whole-heartedly approaching with the understanding, having been in the position several times myself.

I suppose however, I am approaching from the position of having learned from the error of my ways and proffering the benefit of not only an alternative practical solution to the norm, but also the exalted theoretical understanding that goes with it.

One of the main issues I see in this forum is advice is often just action, with little or no theoretical understanding of WHY we chose said action.

Running away is an emotional response - not one a woman wants to see. Fighting is an emotional response (in this OP). It doesn't impress women, rather, simply feeds their egos. It shows caring.

If the guy, after a moment's (week's) clear thought away from the perpetrator , still feels disrespected, well yes time to call it a day, I say. But by simply running away every time he gets a bit emo, the emo beta never learns a thing, especially about himself and what he wants, which is paramount.

On the base 'so suave' level, the techne I am supporting here is indifference.

 

[Soolaimon]

Haaa.

Despite your abrupt ways and girly outlook, I do like you Solly. At least you stick around to debate, unlike some other girly 'Alphas'.

I'll regale you with a quote from Rollo's blog:

'Little girls punish each other by ‘not-being-friends-with’ another girl in their peer clutch. Using shame is a skill women learn early in life to effect the ends of their developing solipsism.'

The black and white, unforgiving exclusion that you place upon this kind of 'disrespect', well, really depends on the nature of the act itself - which is the subjective choice of every man. We don't know the nature of this woman's indiscretions so I therefore consider it somewhat cavalier and frankly irresponsible to advise our Firedweller here to simply run away like a frightened little girl.

In support, here is an indirect citation from Heartiste, The Third Beta Bait Type: The “Bad Boyfriend” Ploy :

'Sh!t tests are more obvious than beta bait, and thus easier to pass for men with excellent awareness of female hypergamy tactics. A sh!t test can be quite bold and shocking to newb ears and thus scare off lesser men, but the inveterate player always operates with the frame that sh!t tests and other assorted confusing and sh!tty female behavior are an opportunity rather than an obstacle to demonstrate his mate value. A girl who is giving you sh!t is a hell of a lot closer to sex with you than a girl who is indifferent to your existence.

....In short, sh!t tests are what women do when they feel attracted to you and don’t know how to properly deal with their growing feelings of desire. Beta bait is what women do when they are feeling LESS attracted to you (or not attracted at all), and are actively seeking ways to verify that you are indeed the beta male they love to loathe and despise.'

This is why I say you are beta for reacting like a little girl and running away from the horrible monstrous female for ever and ever and ever.

Let's all grow a pair and actually experience the indifference. I'm not saying stick around. What I'm saying is disappear for a while, live your life and she will come crawling back eventually begging forgiveness.

The only way to eliminate a unwanted behaviour is not running away scared, but pure ignorance.

Nice attempt at damage control monkey but you are on the record as being a beta in your own words. Nobody should take you seriously after that.

Nice projection as well. Calling me a girl for telling him to leave a woman who doesn't respect him.

You're a castrated man at the hands of a woman who is afraid to leave her no matter what the circumstances are.

It's not running away. It's leaving a bad relationship that he doesn't need to be part of.

More men should do it when it's in the toilet. Betas like you hang on to the very end to get dumped.

These aren't $hit tests. Inexperience men like you call them that. This is clear disrespect coming from her.

She called the man a coward after he defended her and she clearly has disrespect for him.

He told her HE wanted the break. She had no problems with him doing that. What does that tell you? She is glad he is gone.

He doesn't need a woman like that when there are plenty more out there who won't give him grief.

There's a huge difference between unwanted behavior and clear blatant disrespect. Learn it.

Don't read other people's work and claim to be a guru when you have no experience to know what clear disrespect is.

Never in my life have I heard a guy claim that leaving a $hitty woman "is running away like a scared girl" and you need stay with a disrespectful woman to be a real man.

That's the "reality" monkey's delusional world.

If that's what you want from your women go for it.

Enjoy being treated like a piece of $hit.

 

[Cloudtopsun2100]

dude, you gotta let her go. She does this now.. what is she going to do in the future? Gfs supposed to stick up for a dude, she should have been supportive of the whole thing and if she was mad you threw down all she had to do was ask nicely if you could refrain from doing so next time if at all possible...