"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Born Again Virgins

Boilermaker

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zekko said:
I don't believe I said that. But I don't think that a woman not having sex for a few years is really a red flag (putting aside the argument that she is lying for the moment).

If she were a real virgin, she would be prized by many men, and no one would be complaining about her not having sex often enough. Many men here on this forum have gone years without having sex. Now it's true that women can get sex more easily than men can, but women are also supposed to be more selective than men, and are not supposed to be giving it away to just anybody.

Many men have gone without sex while they were working on their careers or building a business. I don't see why women can't get similarly distracted with other things, especially since they supposedly do not have as strong a sex drive as men.

The main warning sign I might be concerned about is this could point to her having a low sex drive, but Des is getting laid so that doesn't seem to apply, at least not right now. Although she may want it less often as the novelty wears off, who knows?
With this extended explanation, I agree with the analysis you give here. It sounded (to me, at the time) that you were proposing she was a good prospect, without any caveats,

doesn't seem like it, my bad.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I know of two very attractive young women who are currently on a long term sex hiatus. They are both non slutty, well educated, driven, great personalities and as far as I can tell completely normal.

One is 27 and her boyfriend passed away a couple of years ago. She's dated a little since then but hasn't met anyone she's interested in. She has commented that it's been a long dry spell but doesn't seem desperate.

The other is 24 and very hot. I was chatting with her recently and she was complaining that all the guys she meets are losers or totally uninteresting. I know one of her exes from two years ago and she mentioned that she hasn't had sex since then. I also know a few guys who have dated her and gotten nowhere.

I guess both of them could be lying but I know them well enough and I don't really think they have reason to.

Thinking back I can also remember certain female friends going on long dry spells too.

I don't know Des, I don't think a chick being celibate for a while is that odd.
 

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Slickster said:
I don't know Des, I don't think a chick being celibate for a while is that odd.
Yeah, and like someone said before, if you want a good example, look at any woman married for a significant amount of time.

I intentionally used the term "born again virgin" for a reason. I honestly think that women are at their most valuable when they're sexually inexperienced. In other words, their count is low and are more emotionally vulnerable. As they continue to consistently date, they become more jaded towards men. But what about when they abstain from sex for a while? Does that give them an emotional reset?

I recently took a break from dating as well because I was getting mad and frustrated with women. The break allowed me to get all that anger out of my system and I'm enjoying dating again. Can the same be said for women?

That's why I'm wondering if the term "born again virgin" actually has any credibility to it. I'm not referring to it as a rollback on their sexual odometer, I'm referring to it as an emotional reset, making them as emotionally vulnerable as a virgin.
 
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