"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Booty call etiquette?

disgustipated

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Met this girl thru a work associate, his sister. This guy knows I will try to **** women we go out with, he invites her anyway. I totally don't try anything with her but by the end of the night she's all over me...kissing me etc etc. She's seducing me at this point. Anyway I end up taking her home and we get right to ****ing. I figure I'm in the clear because I did not lead her on one bit!

As I get up to go in the morning she asks me for my number and I oblige, mistake? So few days later she's like I'd like to get to know you better under other circumstances(her not being so drunk), maybe dinner. I reply I'm not opposed to chilling out but I don't want anything serious. She agrees.

Last night she texts me kinda late saying I left my beer there and I should come get it. She wanted to see me for sure. To make things more clear about what I wanted I say I've only got 2 hours to stay. She agrees. I get there and right off the bat she's asking me tons of questions about myself(justifying to herself she's not a slut if she knows me better???), and this goes on for awhile. Eventually with enough messing around we get to it, and I gotta say I layed it on her pretty good.....4 or 5 REALLY good ones. Then I get out asap. Problem is she's texting already about maybe grabbin dinner. To me this doesnt fall under the category of "chillin" unless it's at her place and she's making it. Plus she's broke as **** and if I did do dinner I know I'd have to pay. Just not gonna happen.

Did I not set the ground rules clearly enough here?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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backbreaker

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booty calls got to eat too brah lol

i mean even booty calls don't want to think of themselves as 100% fvck boxes.

you still have to give a booty call maintenance. just not as much as you would a regular woman you were taking seriously. maybe go out with her 2 or so times a month
 

Warrior74

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backbreaker nailed it.

Well, you haven't broken your ground rules. Just remember, it's not going to go on long this way, but then again booty calls never do. As long as you remember that every woman wants more, some will settle for the hope of having more. I mean how many mistresses buy the line that the guy is gonna leave his wife and eventually get tired of waiting and finally dumps the guy? You gotta grease the wheel every now and then. Nothing is free for long. It's a reason they call it spinning plates. They don't stay up there spinning forever.
 

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Yeah, just make yourself unavailable. See her no more than once a week.
If she starts getting into personal stuff, change the subject.
She'll soon get the message that your only role in this scene us simply "Mr Goodfvck", nothing more.
She'll eventually get sick of it and give you the "What are we?" talk, and that's when you politely bail.
 

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Dear Disgustipated,
on the positive side B squared and the guys have it pretty well sewn up....however,I feel this Lady has an agenda,so take care,stupid young Birds like this frequently get in the family way....The Brothers role suggests she is desperate,so take care!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Disgustipated,
on the positive side B squared and the guys have it pretty well sewn up....however,I feel this Lady has an agenda,so take care,stupid young Birds like this frequently get in the family way....The Brothers role suggests she is desperate,so take care!
fvck buddies don't thik of themselves as fvck buddies. it's not like she is talking to her friend and she says who is that and she says "oh that's my fvck buddy he just fvcks my brains out".

no more than a drug addict thinks of themselves as a drud addict or a ****ty parant thinks of themselves as a ****ty parant.

the botty call is going to try to do non botty callish things. like come over your house in the day time. or buy you food. you might pop up one night and she has messed around and cooked you a meal like you are a couple of some **** lol.

the key to a botty cal;l being long term is for you to always be busy / don't have enough time to persue a serious relationship but you like "hanging out with her" all the time. it just so happens that it's all the time at night when no one is around lol.

so yes you will do some maintenance but you should not have to take her out like 2-3 times a week or anything. but i mean you have to show some interest or at least pretend you give a **** about her even if you don't to keep the gig going. take her to el pollo loco whatever lol just do something iwth her+
 

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Snoop said this '94.... "We don't love 'em hoes!"

Although, even hoes wanna be shown some good loving.....

Don't be drawn into verbally stating anything close to her being a "girlfriend" or such. Unless, you have no problems with lying/deceiving her of course.

On the other hand, don't state that she's your hoe unless she's cool with such. Treat her like she is, instead.

Don't rub your other plates in her face unnecessarily.

F*ck her real gooood and as much as you want to brah.

Treat her good once in three blue moons, that's if she last that long anyways.

Most likely, the "what are we?" talk would come up soon. Be prepared.
 
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