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Being smooth with the Girl - advice needed

Mellowmood

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Hi all, im new here so wats up everyone :)

here goes my story and question:
I met a girl a couple of weeks ago (she is my friends roomate),we are both in our 20's,, we had some small talk a couple of times, and i was working on my attitude well (c&f),,, anyways, one night i was visiting my roomate and she suddenly came home after having a couple of drinks,,, she was flirting with me and so on,,, so we decided to go out to a club as a group,,,, i danced with that girl alot and at that time we had our first kiss,,, damn guys, that girl is seductive as hell (8 on my scale) , but anyways i dont want to turn you guys on right now....so the nite ended and everyone went home safe and all (it was all casual and we never spoke about emotions or feelings).... so i met her twice the week after that cause her roomate is my friend yo ;) nothing ever happened between us other than normal talk and her complaining about her ex-husband and how that she just got out of this relationship and didnt fully recover yet,,,,anyways, i seen her once by coincedence so we planned to go out on the weekend,, we went out and we were making out on the dance floor and i took her home with me,,,, in bed we were kissing, rubbing and so on,, but when i attempted to have sex with her she said, "what are you doing?" , so i said "nothing" and stopped,, i know that with a little talk i could of proceeded but i did not want to give her the pleasure of teasing me, plus i want her to burn for me,,, so next morining i drop her off, and then meet her later that day with my friend and it was as if nothing had happened between us,, she was also talking about how she goes out alot cause she is single,,,, anyways, days pass and i see her by coincedence at a club,, i said hi and said hi and all went his way,,,, later on i seen her dance with a guy on the dance floor, so i go and grab her from him and almost beat the guy up,,, i know that this is a mistake but it happened,,, anyways she was telling me that this is her friend and that she can talk to any guy cause she is single,,,,,,next morning we meet so we can have a 'talk',,, so she start telling me that she is single and that wat happened reminded her of her husband and so and so,,, i told her that i thought that the guy was bothering her blah blah blah.. so she asked me why i did that, and i said, "because i care about you" (i am not sure if that is the right thing to do)... but anyways she seemed happy that i said that and she was hiding it... so we finish this talk and talk about other stuff and had fun with our time,,, i know she enjoyed her time with me, then i told her that i will drop her home cause i got to leave (which i didnt)......here i wat i think - i think that she i atracted to me but at the same time she is enjoying being single (maybe because of her failed marraige?),,, so my question is,, how can i make her my GF in a smooth way? i dont want to ask her straight up because i dont want to give her too much attention and also hurt my ego....what do you guys think,,,, i may have not put all the details you want to feel free to ask and i will gladly answer... thanks in advance.

btw, this forum rocks.
 

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Mellowmood

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i was also wondering about something else,, should i stop calling? and if she didnt call, after how long should i call?

anyone please?
 

Mellowmood

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oh man, is my post that long?
 

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bump
 

Don Corleone

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try this

to be honest with you, i was too lazy to read the whole post. i read the first paragraph and the last. from what i saw i think you need to back off.

wait a few days, probably 3, after you first get her number.

in this case, you already have it, so dont call her a lot. it sounds like youve been calling her a lot and thats wrong.

HERES THE TRUTH BRO:if she doesnt call you back, then shes not interested, shes already filed you in the "wussy" section of her brain. theres no going back. heres what i think you should do. the next time you see her ask her if she has any friends she could hook you up with. thank her for being a good "friend" lately, and you would appreciate it if she could hook you up. tell her you havent met ANYONE interesting lately and that your bored. this will either: A)get you hooked up with one of her friends, or B)she will be like, damn this guy doesnt want me, maybe i should try for him and how him that I AM interesting and then she will go for you.

dont stop being c&f with her, even if you get with her, otherwise you are back where you started.

good luck, though you shouldn't need it

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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maybe you should move on

one more thing, she sounds like shes too high maintenance...in other words, shes damaged goods. move on and date other girls. i know you think shes the one, but women like her are just teases, a dime a dozen. get someone who likes you back bro
 

Mellowmood

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thanks for your advice my friend,,,, i dont know how you read the first and last paragraphs since the whole thing is one paragraph..... hahaha, my bad. But anyways im thankful.

My friend, I think u missed the point since the middle part is crucial,, important things happened their... :)
 

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Re: maybe you should move on

Originally posted by Don Corleone
one more thing, she sounds like shes too high maintenance...in other words, shes damaged goods. move on and date other girls. i know you think shes the one, but women like her are just teases, a dime a dozen. get someone who likes you back bro
Another good advice piece of Don!

A lot of guys are willing to be the knight to rescue the damsel in distress.

Usually these types are "damaged goods." They've been traumatized by abusive relationships from Jerks or they've become jaded entirely from dating bad guys that they formed a hard-up attitude against men.

That's OKAY as long as she's the type that's 1. honest 2. communicative 3. likes being around you.

However if she doesn't even possess two of those three simple qualities, it is an uphill battle and many of us men who have tried to work it out with a mind-gaming girl will conclude this: It is not worth it.

Sure some of us will be interested with this damaged goods girl as I would be. Nowadays I don't even try anymore, if I do contact these girls it's by the weakest method of communication (Text/Email.) as I don't want to give them the time and day of hearing my voice.
 

Mellowmood

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DJ Dork- I hear ya bro.

actualy she has quality number 2 & 3. I dont know about the honest thing. I am not saying that she is not, im just saying that i simply dont know.

But from wat u read,, is there anything that i did wrong,,,, or yet a better question, what would you have done differently?

cheers
 
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