"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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at what age do men/women look their best?

warrior1

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I hear a lot of older people say men look their best when their 30 and women look their best around 25. Well i do not agree with that. I feel that most guys and women look their best between 20-25 and the women's good looks start fading after 25. Does anyone else agree with this?

What ages do women and men look best at and what ages does the good looks start dying down for them?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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For me, I'm 30 and have never looked better. I've definately got better looking with age.
 

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Women: 18-25 (bodies), 20-30 faces.
Men: 22-34 (bodies), 26-40 faces.

Made up but sounds good!
 

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For women, I'd say 17-20. Different girls reach their physical peak at different ages, but generally a girl's natural beauty will peak in her late teens. Depending on genetics and how well the woman takes care of herself, she can maintain most of her peak beauty for several years, but usually no later than her late 20s.

It varies wildly for men, though. Youngest is early 20s, but some men look incredibly sexy (womens' words, not mine :)) into their 40s and 50s. George Clooney is in his late 40s, has grey hair, and many women find him incredibly handsome. Age is not a woman's friend nearly as much.
 

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Please try to maintain some poise, killapetehog.

for woman's face it can be 16-24, body, 20-30, depends on when they started working out :cheer:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Some women age well, some don't. Britney spears looks utterly busted in her mid twenties, Monica Belluci looks good and is pretty old. Some women also cut off their hair and dress manly as soon as they have kids

Staying in shape and keeping off the alcohol/smokes/drugs helps. Grey hair is probably not much of a problem when getting with with women over 30, but losing your hair hurts a lot more. I think women over 25 also care less about looks and more about your career, personality, conversation.
 

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warrior1 said:
I hear a lot of older people say men look their best when their 30 and women look their best around 25. Well i do not agree with that. I feel that most guys and women look their best between 20-25 and the women's good looks start fading after 25. Does anyone else agree with this?

What ages do women and men look best at and what ages does the good looks start dying down for them?
There are exception though. There are certain breeds of women that look unreal when they're 30+. That's the kind you want to marry.
 

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From what I have seen mid to late 20's for women. Men, I hear 30's and 40's. I am mid 30's and still get carded from time to time. So, I guess I should start looking decent around 40.

Go figure.
 
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Women, generally speaking, 16 to 21, trust me, it goes downhill from there!!

Women look more feminine in their younger years and men look more masculine in their older years!!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Wise One said:
Women look more feminine in their younger years and men look more masculine in their older years!!!
well said

Ultimately, the reason girls think old men are hotter isn't because they look best when they're old (even tho that's what the women say); it's because the guys have grown more masculine and achieved higher status with age. Women confuse "attractive" (largely based on personality and status) with "objectively good-looking" all the time. Don't trust what a woman says.

Women aren't useful for their masculinity or their status, however. I say they look best around 18, and their looks are everything as far as hotness goes.
 

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Depends on the girl, but I'd say from 17 to 25 they look their best.
For men, I'm not sure, anywhere from 20 to 40.
 

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For women, the day they're legal is when they're at their hottest :D. For men, Obsidian said it best. Men get more attractive due to achieving status and maturing. But as for physically, a lot of guys are more handsome when they're in their 40s, compared to their 20s. Their facial features change and become less boyish, they fill out a bit more. Stay in shape and it will be the right kind of filling out of course :). So guys just overall mature better, we are like a fine wine, whereas women, just whine :p. Oh and backbreaker....:crackup:. Waiting that out huh? :D
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I would say about young 20s and sometimes around 30. Most woman really lose it after 30 though. I've seen some of the hottest chicks ever become horrible looking in their 30s. You can never tell if a woman will age well or not.
 

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Has anyone else known any very naturally beautiful girls in their "peak years", only to see them let themselves go once they hit their mid 20s or enter a really serious and possibly permanent relationship? It's kinda sad, really. I'm friends with this one girl who is such a beautiful girl. I've seen pictures from her 17-20 years and she had that natural cuteness that most girls would kill for. She was so amazing and youthful looking up until a year ago or so.

She's almost 24 now, has been with the guy she wants to marry for a few years now, and it's almost like she just doesn't care anymore. She's lucky she has a good metabolism but she eats whatever she wants and never exercises, and she's put on a tad bit of pudge. So her body isn't as smokin' as it used to be, and you can tell that it's going to continue down a bad path if she doesn't change these habits. She also smokes and doesn't do much to take care of her skin, so her face has lost some of the youthful vibrance it once had. She could be OH so attractive if she just ate better, did a little exercise, quit smoking and used facial moisturizers or whatever it is women use. It's sad to see beauty fade like that. Oh well, not my problem I guess.
 

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i remember I saw a picture of my old GF, the black girl I posted in the pic when she was 17, and I wouldn't have touched her with a 10 foot pole.. she hadn't grown into her body yet. she didn't hit "stride" until about her early 20's.

on the other side, my old oneitis.. she's still attractive, but no where near as when she was 17-18..she's 23
 
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