"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Asking a girl out on Facebook

HouseLover

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Hi Everyone,

Like most people on here, I'm looking for some advice and to see what other people would do in my position.

I was with my ex girlfriend for 7 years and I ended the relationship back in June. She was an absolutely stunning girl - the kind that every man would look at when we walked past, but I just wasn't happy anymore.

There is a girl that I went to school with and have basically known her since I was 4. The problem is that she was always in a different class to me and in all of the years that I have known her, I don't think I've actually spoken to her. She is a Facebook friend of mine.

I was hoping to see on her Facebook that she was going to whatever club and just happen to 'bump' in to her to get a conversation started but she just tends to post pictures of the places she has been rather than saying she is going to whatever place.

I really want to ask this girl out but just don't know how to do it without sounding like a creep. If I previously had a friendship with her it would have been OK but where I haven't ever spoken to her it makes the 'Fancy a few drinks' message a bit hard to do.

I'm not a bad looking man. Since I've split up with my girlfriend I've had loads of girls try it on with me, so I don't think I'll be rejected on that front.

Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Uncharted

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Don't stalk her haha.

Send her a message something like hey (name) how was your summer? I've been kind of busy doing blah blah blah

she responds wih some crap

you respond "awesome. Hey what's your phone number?"

then call her talk for a bit and ask her out.
 

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Not digging the whole "Ive known her since I was 4......BUTTTTTT I havent even said a word to her" vibe you got going on...

That being said...facebook is an easy trap for chump guys. They fall prey to facebook chats that last hours...and commenting on every photo or "liking it". My facebook game is pretty tight and Ive only ever used it to get phone numbers. Its a BRIDGE....not a pillar of game. Tons of guys use it as a pillar and often crash and burn.

Id probably just elect to be bold and send her a message...something funny + witty. Exchange 2-3 messages, then ask for phone number.
 

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TheException said:
Not digging the whole "Ive known her since I was 4......BUTTTTTT I havent even said a word to her" vibe you got going on...

That being said...facebook is an easy trap for chump guys. They fall prey to facebook chats that last hours...and commenting on every photo or "liking it". My facebook game is pretty tight and Ive only ever used it to get phone numbers. Its a BRIDGE....not a pillar of game. Tons of guys use it as a pillar and often crash and burn.

Id probably just elect to be bold and send her a message...something funny + witty. Exchange 2-3 messages, then ask for phone number.
yep, Id go with this, worked for me last week, sent a message later to say, we "should go and grab a drink sometime", she replied, yeah we could, I left it, she then messages me, when were you thinking? I asked for her number, seeing her this Thursday.

too many guys get caught up in this creepr sh!t nonesense, so what if she thinks your a creep, are you? most likely not, move on and be bold.

in the op's situation though, its important to open her on a very general npote, gauge the response, then proceed, only if she appears receptive would I ever pursue it
 

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I've grown a pair and just messaged her :)

Thanks for the advice guys. Think I just needed a push in to actually doing it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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