"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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approaching girls randomly-easy to do-but no results

joe45

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any guys here going up to girls and say hello and starting conversation with them kind of easy,but getting to hang out with you or date you after the first time u met her-hardd. i done it a many times. you either get the ones that just plain ignore you, talk to you but dont seem interested, look scared, talk to and seem interested, but never returns ur calls or emails, .

me:your cute (in japanese)
she:thank you
me: so how long u been in canada
her-3months.
me:ah learning english hey, yea i study computer sci at ubc
her -ah very hmm
me:so do u find stuyding a new language like english hard hey. i learned japanese before but forgot it all
her : yes studying language hard for me,but i have to
me:ah i have to go-heres my card give me a text or add me on msn we can chat there.

i done the card thing giving my infor out and i also done the may i have ur number or email -samething-not much really. hehe
convesation would go something like this.
i mean i had some i met randomly and we hung out for coffee and dated, but thsoe are the few few .like u approach maybe liek 30 (not all in one day )and maybe one of them add you to msn or email or text u. its like one in thirty chance for me. lets put it this way its not easy at all.

i found going up to girls randomly strangers at coffee shops, chapters bookstore, library, on the bus stop, foood court in the mall not an easy thing to do. i can approach them ,but its like one in 30 -the ones that actually want to meet up and hang out the rest are what i describe above. its just not that easy.

any guys done this before ,and had more success.if so how do u do it. is this normal since most ppl dont meet each other through random places,but more like through friends of freinds parties, school, groups, meetups

i think its has to do with your looks maybe. and also i do it to japanese and korean overseas studying english girls and im a chinese cbc guy . i was told they are easier to get and more open than local asian girls. im average looking. 5 7 tall average build. 20`s. you think i should just appraoch girls from my own background local chiense asian girls-then it would be easier and more chance since we are the same type of background.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i get korean girls all the time. whether they're students or whether they're native. They're not exactly easier but you can get more chances with them because you know english. I don't go down that route since i think its stupid and i can get them without those kind of gimmicks.

From experience i've learned that Korean and Japanese fobs don't really find it attractive when u try to hit on them with their language. I'm chinese and i speak mandarin and cantonese fluently but i don't go around bragging. When i chinese girl realizes i can speak fluently she finds it attractive because i was humble about it. I can speak decent japanese too but i don't go following the japanese girls like all the white guys do and speak japanese to them.

I've had a few japanese ELC students at my former school that were girls and friendly with. They tell me guys that approach them like that they consider major creeps. But since they don't know anybody and have to practice english they tolerate bits and pieces of it.(this is where you're chance comes in. normally you'd have a restraining order on you already but atleast now you don't)

Korean girls usually don't like hanging around none korean people so u kinda have to sneak your way into their crowd. My korean is pretty good for a beginner and i can have fluent simple conversations. Girls find it cute that i understand what they're saying but again...i don't do it in a way that creeps them out.

I'm a decent looking guy, 5'11 and 165 ish. I play my natural game, i don't have to pick up women. I can if i want to but usually they come after me. Not in a way like they would brad pitt but they usually see me a few times and notice that i'm different from other guys and always come try to talk to me.

I'm sure you know this but you're pretty fricken creepy. From the pictures i saw, you have a horrible hair style and not exactly the most fashionable clothes.

Just working on those things will improve your hits drastically. Next you should work on your body and your conversational skills. Find things to talk about that don't creep people out. Don't stare at people from distances or look up their background or interrogate them like you did that japanese girl.

Finally do something with your life. Not only for girls, but so you yourself can stop complaining and *****ing about your friends getting girls when they have sh1t jobs or etc. Find something you're passionate about and pursue it passionately. Not only does that make you more manly but people in general can respect someone that fights for what they believe in, especially women.

If you want help with asian women i can help you. Send me a PM.

I seriously get pissed off at you non improvement and how you make people think the stereotypical chinese guy is like you.

I've dated girls that were white, half white/black, chinese, korean, japanese, filipino, and viet. Girls are all the same if you have game, if you don't have any then they're all almost impossible to get. Race does not matter, atleast not significantly.
 

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i get korean girls all the time. whether they're students or whether they're native. They're not exactly easier but you can get more chances with them because you know english. I don't go down that route since i think its stupid and i can get them without those kind of gimmicks.

From experience i've learned that Korean and Japanese fobs don't really find it attractive when u try to hit on them with their language. I'm chinese and i speak mandarin and cantonese fluently but i don't go around bragging. When i chinese girl realizes i can speak fluently she finds it attractive because i was humble about it. I can speak decent japanese too but i don't go following the japanese girls like all the white guys do and speak japanese to them.

I've had a few japanese ELC students at my former school that were girls and friendly with. They tell me guys that approach them like that they consider major creeps. But since they don't know anybody and have to practice english they tolerate bits and pieces of it.(this is where you're chance comes in. normally you'd have a restraining order on you already but atleast now you don't)

Korean girls usually don't like hanging around none korean people so u kinda have to sneak your way into their crowd. My korean is pretty good for a beginner and i can have fluent simple conversations. Girls find it cute that i understand what they're saying but again...i don't do it in a way that creeps them out.

I'm a decent looking guy, 5'11 and 165 ish. I play my natural game, i don't have to pick up women. I can if i want to but usually they come after me. Not in a way like they would brad pitt but they usually see me a few times and notice that i'm different from other guys and always come try to talk to me.

I'm sure you know this but you're pretty fricken creepy. From the pictures i saw, you have a horrible hair style and not exactly the most fashionable clothes.

Just working on those things will improve your hits drastically. Next you should work on your body and your conversational skills. Find things to talk about that don't creep people out. Don't stare at people from distances or look up their background or interrogate them like you did that japanese girl.

Finally do something with your life. Not only for girls, but so you yourself can stop complaining and *****ing about your friends getting girls when they have sh1t jobs or etc. Find something you're passionate about and pursue it passionately. Not only does that make you more manly but people in general can respect someone that fights for what they believe in, especially women.

If you want help with asian women i can help you. Send me a PM.

I seriously get pissed off at you non improvement and how you make people think the stereotypical chinese guy is like you.

I've dated girls that were white, half white/black, chinese, korean, japanese, filipino, and viet. Girls are all the same if you have game, if you don't have any then they're all almost impossible to get. Race does not matter, atleast not significantly.
well some guys out there are just sly smooth talkers. im not one of them hehe i now that for sure
maybe your height and looks help. yea i agree my hair and clothes-isnt the greatest,but its changing
you had girls come up and talk to you. meaning in a wanting to date you kind of way. i never had a girl ask me out or hit on me ever.
 

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my game only started to get decent about 3 years ago. During my first year was the first time i had a girl try to rape me. My second year i was stuck in a year long relationship with a bpd that ended horribly. 3rd year i had 5 girls try to literally rape me. 2 korean, one taiwanese, one cantonese, and one white/chinese. out of all those 5, 2 more additional ones tried to get me to date them. I only approached one of those girls because i was actually interested in her.
 

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you find japanese girls are more open and less materialtisc, willing ot pay her own share compared to chinese girls which is like opposite to jpn girls. thats what everyone tells me-co workers, friends, ...etc. thats what i also experienced too
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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refer to what i said above to improve or actually seek professional help..whether it be in dating or a licensed doctor.
 

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hate to interupt this dialouge between you two

but sounds like joe45 is in need of a bit of a makeover. start outwardly, dress sharp, work out, new ahircut, feel good about youself

the confidence and the natural game will come after that, after you know that you are the type of guy a girl would want, and that desperation in your conversations wont be as evident

AAAgent sounds more confident, and with his natural game the girls come. alot like me, i dont have to try to much, because i know that i'm the prize (not to sound too ****y)

let us know how u go
 
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