"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Another missed oppurtunity

Suspens

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My mom is working in a shopping mall and she noticed one of her coworkers and thought she was really cute and could be her potential "bride"(ie my future wife). She approached her and complimented her, told her you are really cute etc. Mom is not a lez btw, she is just trying to find a "noble" wife for me. I don't need her assistance as I'm working on my daygame and cold approaches and I've improved a lot lately. But still that's a window of opportunity.

Once she got home she started talking about her and made me curios. I visited her work place the next week and damn the girl was really hot. Someone like Christiana Hendricks. Perfect body, she just had a bit of belly fat. Well more than a bit, but those natural 36DD cups were rare enough to ignore a few shortcomings here and there.

Once she saw me she looked slightly nervous, but got more comfortable after a few seconds. The only sign of interest I noticed was the fact that she kept coming to my mom's department and asked stupid questions. Never looked at me, never smiled, just gave me a brief look. I'm not even sure if that meant anything, but mom said she never came to her dept that often. I didn't do anything just looked at her twice, the lack of IOIs on her part made me hesitant to approach her.


1 month on, mom says there is a new guy at their work place working near that girl and they talk and laugh a lot.

What can I do? I can get her number from my mother's phone book, but that would be insane. Going to their work place and talking to her would be as creepy. Was she even interested to begin with? Did my mom put her on a pedestal (Ma sweet future bride etc)? Did I acted like a wuss with no balls to approach her? How does a gentlman act in this situation?
I probably know the answer myself lol, just slightly confused and need tips.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Suspens said:
What can I do?
Talk to her and see if you actually like her personality first. Maybe during that process she'll take a liking to you.

Suspens said:
Was she even interested to begin with?
Who knows, and the answer doesn't matter. The real question is are you going to do something now to make her interested? For example, actually talk to her.

Suspens said:
Did my mom put her on a pedestal (Ma sweet future bride etc)?
Irrelevant what your Mom thought. But you did pedestalize her.

Suspens said:
Did I acted like a wuss with no balls to approach her?
Obviously...

Suspens said:
How does a gentlman act in this situation?
Do you want to be a nice guy gentlemen, or bang her? I think you're asking the wrong question.
 

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Sounds like she may have liked you but was "nervous." That can happen.

It can be tough, but the only way to move forward and not waste time in a situation like this is to go for the number and a date, quickly. If she rejects, you have your answer and can move on without "pondering" why she behaved a certain way.
 

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Yewki said:
Do you want to be a nice guy gentlemen, or bang her? I think you're asking the wrong question.
Don't want to come off as a weird headcase. She knows my mom and my sister so it's easy to mess up my reputation. The new guy seats right beside her in the same department and I guess that's a clear sign of "Don't approach me you fvcking loser, I'm taken. You had your chance but blew it like a little scared boy". Laughing, flirting and working together.
 

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Ruler said:
No Suspens, you're overthinking it. He could be the creepy one choosing to sit next to her. Just go in and act as if nothing ever happened and she has no pre-conceived notion of you. I think she probably liked you and is talking to this guy on purpose so it gets back to you via your mom.
Wow, that's exactly what I was thinking. And I agree, that is the best way to approach. Just like a total stranger.

Thankfully it didn't turn into an onieits though. I am still doing cold approaches and the results are getting better.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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