"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Am I ****ed?

Cogswell

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Hello, I'm new to the forum and am seeking your opinions.

I went out with this really cool girl who was interested in me from Hello (not to sound ****y) My roommates had a room available so she was a prospective renter and made it clear her interest in me. I emailed her later that week, she gave me her number and wanted to hang. We went out one night, went real well. We hung out a few days later for lunch, also went real well. Then I texted her last Wed for going out on Thur, didn't hear from her till Thursday evening and said she was still looking at places Thursday night but can we have lunch again on Friday. Friday comes, I text her, no response, shoot her a call. Haven't heard back since Thursday night.

Since these opportunities never arise for me, I fretted all weekend long and still haven't heard anything. In my last desperate attempt I sent her another email asking if everything's ok and do you want to go out again. Now I'm waiting to hear back, or not. Keep in mind shes just moving here, trying to find a job, and a place. Maybe I'm just in loser denial.

Am I ****ed here?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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joverby

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Yeah, man. You are. Lots of things just reak of desperation and loneliness here.

I'm confused. You met her from "Hello." Is that a dating website or something? She was a perspective renter for WHERE YOU LIVE and you used that opportunity to try to go on a date with her?! Is that correct?

If so that's an extremley wrong way to try to meet chicks. If she is trying to find a place to live she's not going to want to move in with the creepy guy trying to hit on her.

I hope that's not what happened though. So you went out with her one night, did you escalate, like kiss, make-out or fvck? If not, did you after your lunch date?

If you didn't after that date that could be part of the reason. Or maybe she just knew enough after her lunch date that she didn't want to hang out with you again. Only she can know, which is why you should've just called her the day of your lunch. If she didn't pick up , you drop it. You don't text her right away, you don't call her again, you sure as fvck don't send her that e-mail. You got her phone # why are you e-mailing her?

That e-mail translation = PLEASE LOVE ME, IS EVERYTHING OK, MY QUEEN? WHY DON'T YOU LOVE ME?!?!

Don't some of the best advice you can get for a flakey chick(or to not be too desperate with one) is what would you do if you have 3-5 other chicks lined up that you were talking to? You wouldn't care about one, that you barely know. You would move on and not sweat it.

Read and stick around for a while, you will learn.
 

Cogswell

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"Hello" means the moment she saw me. My roommate told me she wasn't interested in the place so I copped her email from the roommate.

The first night we met up she was studying for a test for her job the next day, we didn't end up doing anything that night. The 2nd time for Lunch I was in the middle of work and she was going into work right after the lunch. Again no opportunity there.

The first time I emailed her it took her 5 days to respond, then when I texted her after getting her number another 2 days because her phone was stolen. So a combination of all that and me sucking has led me to this.

Fvck this game. Like war, there's no winners in it.
 

Mantis Toboggan

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Cogswell said:
"Hello" means the moment she saw me. My roommate told me she wasn't interested in the place so I copped her email from the roommate.

The first night we met up she was studying for a test for her job the next day, we didn't end up doing anything that night. The 2nd time for Lunch I was in the middle of work and she was going into work right after the lunch. Again no opportunity there.
Eh. Those don't really sound like dates. A girl who likes you will make time for a REAL date. Not just sipping on a juice box in between studying or work lunch break.


The first time I emailed her it took her 5 days to respond, then when I texted her after getting her number another 2 days because her phone was stolen. So a combination of all that and me sucking has led me to this.

Fvck this game. Like war, there's no winners in it.
I wouldn't blame the game. It just sounds like you're a bit weak right now.

Chasing a girl who isnt into you. Getting mad because ONE GIRL doesnt like you. Who cares...

All the work I put into being good at this stuff, and you're getting all upset about one chick. These things don't come easy. Be prepared to put in work, and then you'll get the results you want. First step is being real with yourself....one girl is one girl. Plenty more where that came from.
 

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Dont take hos out to lunch, thats some orbiter faggotry. Back off for a while and if you two happen to meet up again go ahead and take her out in the evening (proper fvcking time). The meeting will be much more like a date and you can see then whether there is any chance to escalate or whether you need to charge her to the game.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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