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jonwon

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edger said:
I find it interesting how women will stay with their boyfriend's/husband's regardless if they're AFC. Yea, there will be those of you who will say they get with these men for their money or stay with them for financial security, but come on, we all know women will generally ONLY give their intimacy to men who have their game down tight and fit the DJ profile. Doesn't matter how much they make. We know you don't need to make a lot of money to get laid or to develop relationship with a woman. I myself have seen many many dudes who have had sh*t, develop long term relationships with hot women. But to be more specific, how do these AFC's get with these women in the first place if they're AFC's to begin with? This is where it gets confusing...it's yet another contradiction to what we know and to what's preached here.

I think your in danger of looking at too many labels.

Women are simply sexual creatures, they desire sex as much as we do (if not more).

This is like you quoting you would only sleep with a fox.

Fact:
AFC still equals sex, but maybe with say '1' partner and loyal i.e major attraction in security.

ALPHA can mean many partners and a catch but not a good long term solution.

There are probably as many negatives as there are positives for both situations.

AFC your reading it all wrong.

OFC women would get wet at an AFC but the proportion is a lot lower, or the AFC would be lucky to find her due to his lack of ALPHA qualities like approach and chatting up for a major one.


AFC, average frustrated chump does not equal a guy who cant get it on! It simply means a guy who does not know what it takes and lets face it the amount of women who don’t have a clue in the sack is probably the same.
Still they are attractive to a man who seeks it, so why is an attractive AFC not attractive to a women who wants sex?
The point he is AFC or not, eventually luck may pull through and women will fu** him and due to security need and may marry him.

To go into this would require a lot more then this simply responses as this is a very broad subject, full of pro’s and cons of each side that needs to be grasped.

I suggest you do a lot more reading on the subject of women as It seems you may have some tainted specs on.

Women are simply sexual creatures who do pursue sex, AFC or not! It the man who knows how to see these signals that removes the AFC bit.

ALPHA is simply a product of these boards or a mental state of being in control of your situation, which is better for the man.
BETA is still attracive as it allows a certain women control.

There is simply no right or wrong.

Being ALPHA may get you more success as you are developing qualities to game women, or persue them. But also being BETA is also desirable to an equal extent, the difference is an ALPHA gets to choose where as a beta is simply Choosen. This to me is the only defination you really need to grasp the rest is simply head mess up stuff and can actually harm your interatction with women more then not.

Go out and do it there is no rule book simply due to the fact nature does not need one.

Alpha is simply a great courage boost to get of your ass and get out and choose. Which seperated you from the AFC in all of us.

This is all.

Nature is the LAW here not labels.
 

Latinoman

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edger said:
I find it interesting how women will stay with their boyfriend's/husband's regardless if they're AFC. Yea, there will be those of you who will say they get with these men for their money or stay with them for financial security, but come on, we all know women will generally ONLY give their intimacy to men who have their game down tight and fit the DJ profile. Doesn't matter how much they make. We know you don't need to make a lot of money to get laid or to develop relationship with a woman. I myself have seen many many dudes who have had sh*t, develop long term relationships with hot women. But to be more specific, how do these AFC's get with these women in the first place if they're AFC's to begin with? This is where it gets confusing...it's yet another contradiction to what we know and to what's preached here.
Let's assume that 80% of the male Western population is AFC, 15% is PUA, and 5% is DJ.


Well...only a handful of women (the lucky ones) can have DJs. So, the rest will do whatever possible to have a RICH AFC.

Also...we have the guys that lie their ways into making people believe they are DJs...The only bad thing is that those are the same ones that their women disrespect. Why? Because they were NEVER DJs to begin with. The are posers.
 

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jonwon said:
Fact:
AFC still equals sex, but maybe with say '1' partner and loyal i.e major attraction in security.
That's why. Girls are afraid of being alone. An AFC is a sure bet for long term. Was dating this girl who is about to marry an AFC. He wrote her poems and sent love songs to her in the first weeks of dating. But he provided the sex and the loyalty as well, which is why he won out to the non-afc guy she was dating right before him who wouldn't commit to marriage after a few months of dating.
 

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Latinoman said:
Also...we have the guys that lie their ways into making people believe they are DJs...The only bad thing is that those are the same ones that their women disrespect. Why? Because they were NEVER DJs to begin with. The are posers.
And is also the main reason we all get shyt-tested, DJ or not. There's a lot of men who advertise themselves as real men who 'relax' into their true AFCness when they think the coast is clear.

Women who have been fooled into wasting their time and emotions on such men are loathe to do it again, so save time with their annoying but passable tests.

And to repeat what's been said, AFCs get women because there aren't enough alphas to go round. Though without a backbone or understanding of women, the cost often outweighs the benefits.
 
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