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Hey this started out as a response to the "The AFC C0ckblocker" thread but i just kept on typing and didn't want to hijack Rollo Tomassi's thread so i made a new one.

It's far too long. suck it :p

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Man.. ugh.

I had this situation happen to me Saturday night. I've never had anything like it happen before. It wasn't so bad but...

(This will be part afc ****blocker story.. plus some more to the story just for entertainment purposes... then some questions/ruminations.)

I asked this girl (HB8. Maybe HB8.5) I've known out for a over a year now out... we finally get our schedules meshed and go out to a bar together. It's our first 'date.' I've been waiting 2 weeks to go out with her after asking her. We order drinks.

Almost immediately afterwards she runs into the manager of the gym she goes to. Apparently they're friendly. He offers to buy us all shots. Ok fine he orders us some buttery nipples (?!) and we do them and he talks to us.

And talks to us.
And talks to us.
And talks to us.
Goddammit go away.

I have no idea if he was intentionally getting in the way. But he was fairly friendly to me and included me in conversation somewhat though it was mostly directed at her though i sure as hell didn't let him just completely take over because i just talked to both of them anyway. He didn't really pull any AMOG stuff other than being there. But damn he was screwing up the night. I didn't come here to be in a 3some with 2 dudes. The funny thing is that he bragged about why he doesn't have a gf ("i don't want to settle" and "i always come out by myself because i always see so many people i know..." oh really then why are you up our butts all night if you know so many others?)

I really didn't have a clue what to do. The girl and I gave each other a knowing look a few times.. and the guy kept trying to get us to go dancing at another bar (even offered to pay our cover) and the girl was like "no you go ahead. i'll go dancing some other time." Did he go? Heck no.

What was i supposed to do? I couldn't risk offending him i have no idea how good of friends he is with the girl.

What sucked is the guy was probably about 230-240-250 lbs. He was built like the stereotypical powerlifter. You know, strong and big but not with the body fat in check. And his head was shaved. Manager of a gym too... ugh. Not someone you'd want to offend anyway!

Here I am with the first girl after my ex after starting seriously lifting with all these brand new muscles and the guy next to me still dwarfs me. :p

extraneous long winded off topic but possibly funny stuff:

THEN..

Her ex is at the bar. At least he ignores us. Too much because he walks right by as if he's obviously ignoring us. Geez man you could at least acknowledge your ex.

THEN..

MY ex's friend is at the bar. Then my ex's friend leaves the bar.

My ex starts text messaging me soon after (gee i wonder how she knew). She's at the bar down the street. Great. She's texting me to come kiss her and telling me "oh the things i want to do to do you" and "i'm so much better than the b1tch you're with" (she has no idea who i'm with but she actually knows the girl). I had done shots with the lifter guy to be friendly so i'm not thinking particularly clearly. I decide it's a good idea to show the girl i'm out with the texts from my ex telling me to come see her..

My date takes my phone and starts texting my ex. Oh i just let this go on. I'm a freakin idiot. They go back and forth with the ex calling my date a b1tch "he'll never touch you like he touched me, b1tch" and my date taunting her "have a good night without mrRuckus considering im here with him." Luckily i got my phone back before the ex sent the text of "Sigh make sure he doesnt hit u. u SORRY B1TCH." Wow i knew my ex was a jealous girl but her first hearing of me out with a girl after her and she freaks out. I have no idea where the "hit u" comment came from but i don't need a new girl thinking i have some history of that. I feel a teeny bit justified because we had joked about making both our exes jealous if we ran into either of them, but little did we know either would be there let alone both.

At this point i've lightly kinoed with the girl a bit after the lifter is finally away and we finally get to talk a bit just the two of us but she has to go DD for her parents since they interrupt by calling her (it was their birthday.. yes both.. and she promised she would... she's 23 and still lives with them even though she has a job and all that)...

I go with her back to our cars.. blah blah i lean against her trunk for a few seconds then i just surprise her and hug her (don't ask me why).. i put her in her car... i'm drunk (ugh didn't mean to drink that much.. i know, mistake) and as i'm about to close her door for her i think "i'm going to be mad about this later if i don't" and lean down to kiss her. She surprises me and readily accepts my kiss as if we're in the middle of some passionate sex (wtf does she always kiss like that?) . Then cuts that off after like 5-10 seconds and says she has to go get her parents since they're waiting. So i let her drive off.

I end up falling asleep in my own car only to have a cop wake me up at 3am telling me i need to call and get a ride.. but then after promising him i'd call for a ride, i ignore him and go back to sleep.. geez. I wake up at 5am, drive home and send the txt to my date that i made it home okay since she made me tell her i would tell her i got home safe.


Now i'm actually a bit confused because she accepted my kiss even after i let that whole "Ex vs New Date" crap go on where she made comments like "i bet you're going to marry her" and "you can go see her if you want. i won't mind." (yeah right)... I defended myself saying no thanks sex from the ex would be short term gain, i have no desire for any more with her as i'm only interested in long term gains and the ex is over and done with. (Dammit i didn't mean to indicate to her that i was thinking of her as maybe long term. She might have taken it that way.)

And at one point she made the comment that she'd never go back to her ex but she might be physical with him again, even though i think she just said that to make things even with my ex throwing herself at me because no way she would tell me that otherwise.

The Question Part

Anyway Monday at work I wait until the afternoon and email her. We've had the habit for about 2 months now of emailing each other back and forth because we have desk jobs. I know i shouldn't have gotten into this habit but this was before we had any intention of dating and I was still with the ex. I make some jokes that I'm glad I survived such a harrowing night of putting up with her (just continuing my normal teasing of her). She responds and is like haha blah blah blah "YOU'RE ALIVE!!!" and so glad that i made it home okay and she'd have felt so horrible having run out on me and i got into an accident or pulled over.

So haha we send two more emails back and forth then she says she's going to the gym and leaving work She had mentioned the week before we should meet for lunch from our respective works (we don't work too far apart), so I send her an email responding to what she said in her last one then at the end say "Let's do lunch tomorrow. Mexican or chinese?"

She hasn't responded. I didn't email back not wanting to look desperate or 'chase her' too much. So we went all of Tuesday not saying anything, which is unusual, but I think she would have responded had I said anything else.

The Questions
Did I really screw sh1t up being a dumbass drunk and letting her see those txts? Maybe it actually worked in my favor with some sort of jealousy or social proof? Shouldn't she have at least responded saying no she can't make it if she couldn't/didn't want to? If uninterested why kiss me for those 10 seconds before leaving? (she could have just let it go at a simple kiss or did the cheek turn maneuver.) Should I try to contact her again or just sit back and relax and wait for her to contact me? Maybe she's doing the hard to get, not wanting to seem too eager thing. General comments? Ridicule?


Ok guys this is why you don't drink on a date.



p.s. my ex txted me apologizing the next morning claiming not to even remember txting me since she was drunk until she read her log from the night before. Yea right, whatever.

Also, later on I finally notice a voicemail from the ex. It was from RIGHT after we left the bar and it was pretty muffled and said something along the lines of "tell that ****ing ***** to put down her ****ign phone because i'm ****ing coming over there right ****ing now." Luckily I never even knew my phone rang.
 

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I asked this girl (HB8. Maybe HB8.5) I've known out for a over a year now out... we finally get our schedules meshed and go out to a bar together.
There you go. I think there was no real interest there to start with. It somehow took a year after meeting her before she could manage a 3 hour window with you? Cm'on. The good news is, there was nothing to mess up.

If uninterested why kiss me for those 10 seconds before leaving?
Did she have any shots?

Dude, she was totally reacting to your powerful social proof, i.e., the fact that another girl was jeleaous was enough to get her a little turned on.

It's like those elimidate shows. You know those chicks are just acting due to competition, not because the guy is all that attractive. Chicks will do heavy kino just out of spite for another chick. I've had it happen.

Kitty Kats Kompete, but I see no evidence of interest.
 

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Phyzzle said:
There you go. I think there was no real interest there to start with. It somehow took a year after meeting her before she could manage a 3 hour window with you? Cm'on. The good news is, there was nothing to mess up.
Like I said, I never asked her out until now because I was involved with someone else but we did talk now and then. We had actually met up once before 15 months ago but I was starting to see the ex at the same time so I let it fizzle out. We kept in contact and I saw the date in person a couple weeks ago and we talked/flirted for 2 hours. I wrapped up the ex stuff for good and then asked her out. She didn't hesitate to say yes.

Hmm sounds like i'm trying to convince you and that's not what i want to do at all. I really don't know because the way she talks to me and flirts and acts aloof confuses me. Haha she's djing me.


Did she have any shots?
She was DDing for her parents as a birthday gift so she drank very little. Which is what I should have done.


Dude, she was totally reacting to your powerful social proof, i.e., the fact that another girl was jeleaous was enough to get her a little turned on.
Possibly.


It's like those elimidate shows. You know those chicks are just acting due to competition, not because the guy is all that attractive. Chicks will do heavy kino just out of spite for another chick. I've had it happen.
The ex wasn't there to witness and I never turned it up heavy until we left the bar. Kinoing had started before the ex was in the picture.

Those elimidate shows they're not acting due to competition i don't think. They're acting to put on a show for the cameras with active encouragement by the crew.
 

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I had a similar experience where I was on a crucial second date with a woman and this guy who vaguely knew us both sat with us and started reeling off all this conspiracy theory bullshyt and artlessly bigging himself up for her benefit. Oh and she was black and so was he, though he was a big fat ugly c*nt.

There were rolled eyes between me and the girl, but outside of being really rude to him I couldn't get rid of him and any romantic atmosphere was ruined.

In retrospect I could have and should have argued with his more stupid points more, out-alpahed and subtly undermined him until he wasn't comfortable annoying us, but I wasn't in the mood and it was obvious he wasn't going to get any hints.

Another time in the same situation I told a guy (who again I vaguely knew) that we were discussing something private, which worked but seemed a bit rude.

Sounds to me like your date is interested but throwing you a clingy-test. Don't pursue, let her worry.
 

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Man, so much as I hate to say it...

Spend time with some other girls, directly.

She ignored your e-mail, and thus was rude/disrespectful. If you e-mail/contact her again... you've handed her your nuts. She needs to come back to you, preferably with an apology.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
The texting battle between the two girls is pretty entertaining.:)
Haha yeah that's why I posted it instead of getting to the point. I've never seen anything like it.

Since I posted that the ex has contacted me again apologizing.

She told me she had tried to come to the bar I was at but her friends stopped her. I'd have loved to see what fireworks would have went down. She found out WHO the girl was since she went to high school with her and now she's even more irritated that that girl had the balls to taunt her like that "most other women would have been too intimidated."

Then she proceeded to trash the girl and say she's easy and has had "lots of boyfriends" and "better use protection with that one" and "she didnt even finish college dude just fell into a job" and "you can do better than her" and finally "it's ok i have my own kristen* but i don't plan on sleeping with him" All rather see-thru and obvious don't ya think?

It's all rather entertaining.

I'd like to see if that girl comes running back to me once she sees my ex again just to spite my ex. I KNOW words will be exchanged between them.

* kristen is made up name of my date
 

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Vulpine said:
Man, so much as I hate to say it...

Spend time with some other girls, directly.

She ignored your e-mail, and thus was rude/disrespectful.

Yeah that about sums it up. The difficulty is that i've been friends with her for a good year and a half so I'm not sure if it's a good idea to just give her the finger like that as if she's just some random girl I've known for a week.
 

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Espi said:
I'll be very direct: :D

You had a golden opportunity to prove your manhood to her by grabbing her and whispering in her ear: "C'mon, I'm going to rescue you. come with me. It's a secret." Then, smile at the guy and say, we're going now. See ya."

He was AMOG'in g you, and you gave him the benefit of the doubt? He sounds like a gamer to me.
Eh i was pretty confused about who he even was. Long term friend or what...

Learning experience.

I don't know about gamer. I think more along the lines of socially retarded with his stupid bragging and trying to throw money around to impress us.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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