Advice needed + Morality

[Slash Dolo]

Will try to make this as short as possible. I've known this girl going on 10 years now, since we were in high school and we're now in our mid 20's. We'll call her Trish. She's pretty hot.

So Trish and I are pretty open with each other and we've made it no secret that we are attracted to one another despite her being in a relationship ever since I've known her and me being in several since I've known her. But we've respected each other enough never to interfere with the other's relationships. She dated a guy for like, 7 years, then immediately started dating someone else the moment she broke up with him, and she's still seeing him present day. And like I've said, I've been on and off the market sporadically throughout the years. There was never a moment where at least one of us wasn't in some sort of relationship.

For the past several weeks we've been hanging out alone. Her dude plays D&D and she's not interested, so she comes over to chill for a few hours watching movies and stuff and just kinda shoot the sh*t. Her dude is cool with it since we've been friends for so long. But last night was a little different.

The entire night she keeps talking about how similar we are. This isn't uncommon, and we are similar, but she was bringing it up nonstop in a 'trying to impress me' way. I was drinking a bit, she wasn't, and before she leaves we get on the conversation of nudes on our phones. Out of nowhere she just ups and shows me two of them. Tells me not to tell her bf and then she leaves shortly after.

Now I'm a pretty cold individual but I have a moral compass here because the guy she's dating is a not-so-close friend. He's a good dude and she's happy. But let's go back to the first paragraph and let me re-iterate; she's pretty hot. She's all but telling me outright she's DTF.

Someone either talk me out of it or into it. Would love to hear opinions.

 

[Billtx49]

" then immediately started dating someone else the moment she broke up with him". Sounds like a classic branch swinger in action, and looks like she is now actively eyeing you as her new branch.
Question is, do you want that type of break up to potentially happen to you and all the negative emotions that would possibly entail ?
Brings up the old line, if she cheats with you, she will cheat on you.
You say you have a moral compass. No one else can tell you how to use it. Does it always point north, or does it waver from time to time?

 

[Bingo-Player]

10 years is a long time and i can assure you this , she knows far better where she stands with you , than you do with her

my guess ?

she's bored .....women in this age category love excitement and fantasising over new d1ck

she knows you have a thing for her and she can trust you enough to have a little fun ......an opportunity may shortly present itself to screw her its always 50/50 in these situations sometimes the woman will draw the line at innuendo/ pics / flirting , sometimes she will get caught up so much in it all she will end up fvcking you

what you do at this point is up to you but be warned it will screw the "friendship" up and it WILL cause drama you don't necessarily want

also note than when all the dust settles she isn't likely to settle with it and will seek a new challenge.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Someone either talk me out of it or into it.

You hear the story of the Golden Goose that laid golden eggs? That describes your situation. Forget morals, look at it pragmatically.

So you bang her, what's the potential outcomes?

You fall madly in love with each other, and live happily ever after?

Or it doesn't work out and your relationship with her is forever ruined?

It doesn't work out and you back to the way it was?

Consider that she may be worth much more to you as a "back up plan" than anything else. Is that back up plan worth a lay with trish the dish who's DTF?

Lots of hot girls can be talked into being DTF by a confident guy with a backup plan.

Think long term. Always think long term.

 

[Bible_Belt]

She dated a guy for like, 7 years, then immediately started dating someone else the moment she broke up with him, and she's still seeing him present day.

The odds are that she was cheating on previous bf with current bf, which would explain that quick transition.

She's DTF right now because she's hearing wedding bells when she looks at you. She's thinking you are going to rescue her from her current boring relationship.

 

[Julian]

Why are you friends with a female ??? To the point where you hang out platonically and watch movies and do gf/bf stuff besides banging?

I dont follow...


Anyway if i were you i would have banged her already and been that dude she calls to hang out an bang when shes bored of her bf. JK thats skeezy. Honestly I would smash her but would not fall for her at all. Actually id say if we are gonna smash you need to end things legit with your boyfriend and then we can proceed. that would be the most honorable thing to do.

 

[MillionBillionaire]

Nothing good can come of banging this chick.. plain and simple. You should have banged her about a decade ago.

Banging a "good friend" is a desperation move.

 

[Slash Dolo]

She dated a guy for like, 7 years, then immediately started dating someone else the moment she broke up with him, and she's still seeing him present day.

The odds are that she was cheating on previous bf with current bf, which would explain that quick transition.

She's DTF right now because she's hearing wedding bells when she looks at you. She's thinking you are going to rescue her from her current boring relationship.

She was. She told me way back when. Her last boyfriend was pretty psycho, literally almost killed the current one.

" then immediately started dating someone else the moment she broke up with him". Sounds like a classic branch swinger in action, and looks like she is now actively eyeing you as her new branch.
Question is, do you want that type of break up to potentially happen to you and all the negative emotions that would possibly entail ?
Brings up the old line, if she cheats with you, she will cheat on you.
You say you have a moral compass. No one else can tell you how to use it. Does it always point north, or does it waver from time to time?

I said nothing about dating her and starting a relationship. But honestly; probably wouldn't care at this point. Gotten pretty cold to the whole relationship/dating thing.

You hear the story of the Golden Goose that laid golden eggs? That describes your situation. Forget morals, look at it pragmatically.

So you bang her, what's the potential outcomes?

You fall madly in love with each other, and live happily ever after?

Or it doesn't work out and your relationship with her is forever ruined?

It doesn't work out and you back to the way it was?

Consider that she may be worth much more to you as a "back up plan" than anything else. Is that back up plan worth a lay with trish the dish who's DTF?

Lots of hot girls can be talked into being DTF by a confident guy with a backup plan.

Think long term. Always think long term.

Good points. I think we've known each other long enough that I don't think our friendship could ever be ruined by something like this. It's more of a moral or "I don't really want to get sucked into anything" mindset.

Why are you friends with a female ??? To the point where you hang out platonically and watch movies and do gf/bf stuff besides banging?

I dont follow...


Anyway if i were you i would have banged her already and been that dude she calls to hang out an bang when shes bored of her bf. JK thats skeezy. Honestly I would smash her but would not fall for her at all. Actually id say if we are gonna smash you need to end things legit with your boyfriend and then we can proceed. that would be the most honorable thing to do.

She's a rarity. Very male-oriented mindset, smart, she's one of the guys when she hangs out with our friend group. I wouldn't hang out with any other girl platonically.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I don't think our friendship could ever be ruined by something like this.

If she is longing for a relationship with you, then it begs the point, is she really your friend? I don't hang around my friends just because I'm hoping to have sex with them. If you were the one pining after her and calling her your "friend," everyone here would be laughing at you. It's not any different when the roles are reversed.

 

[Slash Dolo]

I didn't look at it that way. So you think she's gonna bounce if I just have sex with her and then don't try to steal her away like some Disney movie? Yikes.

 

[Billtx49]

She tells you nonstop how similar you two are, then shows you her naked pics. What did you think her plan was?
If it keeps up, then it looks like a great advertising campaign to me, and advertising usually precedes the sell.
If she keeps going with it she probably wants more than you currently think.

 

[Bible_Belt]

So you think she's gonna bounce if I just have sex with her and then don't try to steal her away like some Disney movie?

Nope, not at all. That would be the logical thing to do, but we're talking about a woman. She'll just keep throwing herself at you, thinking that the Disney romance will happen eventually. You could fvck her for years, but I think you'd be jerking her around the entire time.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I didn't look at it that way. So you think she's gonna bounce if I just have sex with her and then don't try to steal her away like some Disney movie? Yikes.

Yet another guy who pretends to ask for advice but what he's really asking is "please verify my decision to bang this girl."

 

[Slash Dolo]

Yet another guy who pretends to ask for advice but what he's really asking is "please verify my decision to bang this girl."

Hahaha, hey now, I was going to just bang her but decided to come here first to ask for opinions. And honestly you guys are swaying me out of it.

If she keeps up the advertising campaign as Bill states up there, what do I do? I mean it isn't like I'm powerless to resist here, but you can only dangle a steak in front of a hungry man so long before he chows down.

 

[Billtx49]

Hahaha, hey now, I was going to just bang her but decided to come here first to ask for opinions. And honestly you guys are swaying me out of it.

If she keeps up the advertising campaign as Bill states up there, what do I do? I mean it isn't like I'm powerless to resist here, but you can only dangle a steak in front of a hungry man so long before he chows down.

Then it becomes an inner personal fight between sex drive, morality, and what you think is the right thing to do.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

If she keeps up the advertising campaign as Bill states up there, what do I do? I mean it isn't like I'm powerless to resist here, but you can only dangle a steak in front of a hungry man so long before he chows down.

I know this isn't what you asked, and when I was 27 there's no way I would have been able to do what I'm about to suggest, but just consider how much having a QUALITY girl that is good to go would do for your frame.

Don't discount the frame magnifying power of UNTAPPED sexual energy, that you could point in other directions. (girls money etc).

That is the golden goose I referred to earlier. Having that "in your back pocket" could easily translate into a plethora of unexpected benefits.

Once you tap it, it can never be UNtapped. It will never again be sexual POTENTIAL the most powerful form of energy on earth...

 

[Julian]

She's a rarity. Very male-oriented mindset, smart, she's one of the guys when she hangs out with our friend group. I wouldn't hang out with any other girl platonically.

but shes not tho...not a rarity bro. shes still taking d1ck on the daily from some dude...your minds clouded bro

i think the reality is you have been brainwashed into being extreme beta friendzoned to the 1000th degree and justifying all the reasons u havent smashed her yet