"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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A question to SexPDX and others who don't "believe" in SS...

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If SS works by merely giving the guy great, intrinsically human things to talk about and not in the way Ross Jeffries claims it does (using embedded commands to direct her emotions) how do you explain all the amazingly fast lay reports that the PUAs are always putting out? I really think that it's doubtful that a girl would fvck a guy in two hours just because he talked about great, intrinsically human things.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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and which great pua's would you be referring to? SS is useful, but it's just another tool for your toolbox.
 

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Dude, I NEVER said that SS can't or doesn't work. I KNOW OTHERWISE.

All I ever said was that it works for different reasons than people are told and that the conversational hypnosis aspect of SS was oversensationalized for the purpose of building the user's confidence in the material.

You can bang a good many women if you are using material you have that much confidence in.

Also, as Drew said, SS is a tool in the toolbox. Even when I did use SS, that's not ALL I did. I did try to use nothing but SS a few times and I came off like a new age wacko. Very few good PUA's in the community are 100% SS. Whose reports are you talking about BTW?

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SS is just one minute tool in seduction. Peacocking, gimmicks, Kino, Physical attraction, sexual state, isolation, Trance words, elliciting values, rapport, C + F, State changing and more are all part of a god PU and lay. Even if all you have verbally is in the way of SS, there is still sexual state and other physical things that are part of your game. Not to mention tone of voice.

Girls are more sexual than guys. When a girl is out, without her friends, it is more likely she will want sex and is out to meet a guy. Most PUA's, I think, go for chicks who are already isolated, so they already have a higher chance of success.


No, there is no PUA who goes 100% SS. It is impossible. They use way more than just that. Some won't even touch SS. I think you are misreading the lay reports, or the PUA's are leaving out important details in their game.
 
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SexPDX and epitome of evolution:

The lay reports I am talking about are mainly the ones on pickupguide.com. Here's an example, by tokyopua

Total time to lay in terms of time invested was
approximately 3.5 hours, about the same as HB Physics, my other recent
street PU who I did that same day. This efficiency is possible if the
progression is done just right, I think.
I realize that you can't talk in pattern language 100% of the time. Especially in a group setting or in the initial PU (Hey ladies! I saw the most interesting show on the discovery channel last night...lol).

So you would say the only value in SS is that it gives the seducer confidence? And that it is mainly this, and the other aspects of the game of the PUAs that gets them laid?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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