A nice guy that gets the babes?

[joverby]

when females find you attractive it over rides most rules and complexities.. so the less attractive they find you the more you need this don juan game tactics to get layed..

Sums it up pretty perfectly. But as other people said looks will only get you so far, it makes it much easier but you're going to have to have some game (strong, appealing character)

 

[DonGorgon]

But as other people said looks will only get you so far..

^^yes looks will get you in her pants very fast..lol

ugly with good game will still take longer to F her than good looking with little game..

 

[joverby]

"^^yes looks will get you in her pants very fast..lol"-Don Gordon


Ya, you will. I was talking more long term. As in a LTR. Saying that the lust would quickly fade if you don't have a desireable personality.(You're too AFC, or something else)

 

[sambwoy]

Are you short? Have some other "Level I" obstacle that would benefit from you going for LJBF with a super-elite first? Perhaps it's sexual inexperience, high standards, or a combination of all of the above.

I got lucky in that I crashed and burned so horribly in NYC's "trendy" bars by age sixteen that I had sworn off them as serious venues. This caused my DAY GAME to skyrocket, and that flowed out of just talking to attractive girls normally, but avoiding conversation with the uglies!

I cannot stress enough the importance of learning how to relate in "Level II" (spiritual/friendship) in laying a proper foundation for becoming a world-class PUA. Even the hottest of the hot women will not object to FRIENDSHIP if you approach her correctly (or let her approach you in time of need), at which point you have a PIVOT at the least, a good scoring chance at best, and a huge FREE BOOTCAMP for everything in between.

A super-hottie who is your FRIEND isn't going to want you to do badly with women becuase a) you'll hit on her; and b) you'll disprove their LIE that the best man wins, so they rig the game in your favor, as long as you don't expect them to take one for the team.

Well, high standards? I'd like to think not.
In my position, I have appreciated attractive women in the past but realistically I know that it is hardly ever possible to get those that meet a physical type or other type you like because I have many things wrong with me and I know that's dilusional to think that way, it's not reality.

I am still a virgin, though, at 24, I am starting to feel that hollow feeling.

 

[nismo-4]

So lately a friend and I have been going out and seeing chicks together. This dude acts very feminine. He walks it and talks it. He'll do all sorts of favors for girls yet he still attracts them haha. He is also very self conscious and will be an emotional tampon to the girls he talks to at times. (talking about his ex, family life, and all sorts of things.)

He's a pretty good looking guy so he has that going for him. But other than that, I'm just dumbfounded. He is the perfect poster guy for a beta nice guy, yet he's still pulling the babes!

I'm not here to try and figure out some pseudo psychological mumbo jumbo to this, I just figured I would share it with ya'll and see what you think. Or maybe you have experienced this too? Discuss!

Perhaps he's a well-to-do guy with a house in Beverly Hills and a Bentley? Or he's a handsome motherf**ker? If he has this, he can be a beta all he wants. Not that it's recommended.

Case closed.

 

[sambwoy]

Are you short? Have some other "Level I" obstacle that would benefit from you going for LJBF with a super-elite first? Perhaps it's sexual inexperience, high standards, or a combination of all of the above.

I got lucky in that I crashed and burned so horribly in NYC's "trendy" bars by age sixteen that I had sworn off them as serious venues. This caused my DAY GAME to skyrocket, and that flowed out of just talking to attractive girls normally, but avoiding conversation with the uglies!

I cannot stress enough the importance of learning how to relate in "Level II" (spiritual/friendship) in laying a proper foundation for becoming a world-class PUA. Even the hottest of the hot women will not object to FRIENDSHIP if you approach her correctly (or let her approach you in time of need), at which point you have a PIVOT at the least, a good scoring chance at best, and a huge FREE BOOTCAMP for everything in between.

A super-hottie who is your FRIEND isn't going to want you to do badly with women becuase a) you'll hit on her; and b) you'll disprove their LIE that the best man wins, so they rig the game in your favor, as long as you don't expect them to take one for the team.

I guess I have a basic outlook/self-esteem problem, but I perhaps also have 'physical shortcomings'- not short- but I have naturally red hair that I often think it doesn't work in my favour- I was teased about it- and the aspergers problem. Also, its getting the balls to ask out more.

 

[Chamber36]

For all we know this guy is in the FZ with them.

Edit:
I thought the thread would be pointless but the conclusion is important.

The above post says it already.

 

[floydb25]

There's a difference between being a nice person and a nice guy. There are other factors, as well. A ***** generally won't be attracted to a nice person - because she's not nice herself. Or at least, it won't stop her from being a ***** - simply because he's nice. Nice girls will date and appreciate nice guys. A lot of girls are interested in nice people.

The other point, which has been mentioned already, is physical attraction. This is where a LOT of nice guys get confused, and come to irrational conclusions. A woman will date a jerk because he's hot. She will complain about him because he's a jerk, but will still be physically attracted to him. She's bothered by it because she cares. She doesn't CARE if the nice guy is nice or not - because she's not attracted to him. She only complains because the hot guy is a jerk. She wants HIM to be nice - not the nice guy she finds unattractive.

This works both ways, too. A lot of guys assume that all girls want jerks because the hot ***** does. It's all they focus on - just like the girls who focus on the hot jerks. They don't care what the average nice girl is attracted to - because they're not attracted to her. They see the hot *****es going after hot jerks, and conclude that its what everyone wants - because that's who they are attracted to. It's all they see.

You will generally find that the only nice guys who complain endlessly are the unattractive ones. Not every nice guy out there finishes last. You just don't hear from them - because they don't have any problems. The ones who do always have the same story. They are never given a chance. Or, if they are, its half-assed - because the girl isn't into them.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Usually the only two ways that "genuinely" nice guys get women is because they:

A. Have met a "genuinely" nice woman who appreciates his non-ass-whole qualities.

Or

B. He has so many OTHER attractive things about him such as power, status, money, etc. that OVERPOWERS the fickle nature of those average-minded women who would usually reject him due to his "niceness".

 

[FairShake]

He'll do all sorts of favors for girls yet he still attracts them haha.

Dude...chicks dig and fvck guys that can and do favors for them and buy them stuff. Don't internalize this "bad boy" stuff TOO much because you start to lose common sense.

Anyway, a friendzone is affected by both personality and looks. If he's a good looking guy it doesn't matter if he's "nice." If he's fun it doesn't matter if he's nice. Believe me those two things are AT LEAST as important as acting "bad."